Blizzard could increase drop rates on all items and mats, which would eliminate need for trading, botting, etc. For example if they tripled the stygian stone drop rate there would be no need to buy them from a botter / duper as you could easily just farm them yourself.
Alternatively blizzard could embrace trading as the only way to acquire the ultimate items, and they could create a first class auction house to trade items and make the trading experience more pleasant and streamlined.
The current hybrid is a really poor experience and makes the game less than it could be. If you are a “self finder” it takes too long to find everything you want. I am a self finder, mostly because the trading experience is very clunky. I was able to build pretty good characters, but 3 months just isn’t enough time to build a fully optimized character. In diablo 3 I liked the auction house they had. If they had that, I’d get more into trading.
I’d like to see Blizzard either embrace trading and make a first class trading system, or ban it and boost the drop rates so you don’t need to trade. The current trade system of linking items in chat, and hacky suspect virus infested websites just stinks.
They just need to ban botters, gold sellers, and gold buyers, so we have natural player economy. There is nothing wrong with trading, but the botters create too big of a design canyon between these groups of players, or people that are somewhere in-between. This makes things hard to adjust for Blizz.
I couldn’t agree more. Personally, I don’t want trading at all. I’d really appreciate a return to the rules in D3 (after RoS): Trading only with the people you actually played with.
I get that at least some players like trading though. If Blizzard absolutely wants to cater to them, so be it.
But if trading is here to stay, two problems have to be fixed:
RMT, botting, duping has to be controlled.
We need a usable trading platform in game.
The current state of “trading” is simply inacceptable: We have crazy inflation. Prices in the range of billions (something no legit player could ever farm) clearly show that the whole “market” is driven by duped or botted gold.
Also, we have no adequate platform for trading: We have a somehow “legit” third party site, which is awkward to use - and then there are all the RMT sites. This is not “trading”, it’s simply a shame.
So, either implement trading in a way that’s acceptable for a AAA title in 2024 - or just disable it.
A self found mode that increased drop rates to level the playing field would be nice. But will never happen.
If you think about it, it’s in Blizzard’s interest to attract the CC warriors. The folks swiping a CC to buy gold are more likely to swipe a CC to buy a cosmetic.
Trade if you like, i don’t support rmt or gold farmer. Up to you though I personally don’t like the idea of off line trading,to many scamers out there.
I’d be satisfied if they added a SSF mode with no trading. Keep the existing sytem for those who like it though, just give us a CHOICE (choice is good, right?)
Right now you cant trade uniques nor craft them other than upgrade the perm affix’s and but hey you can probably craft better legs in some cases that offer a some better affixes … Next season should change this issue a little…
I think to really hurt 3rd party sellers triple the drop rates on all mats including gold take away the need to be so dependent to have to result to 3rd market sellers. How about assigning better affixes on G leg drops its totally laughable at present the terrible rolls you get for something you grind hours & days for…Ya know Blizzard puts all this stuff out out there and if the strict RNG is good to you & with a little luck you will have super streamer type results , well that’s fine but the average player who plays D4 on the average 1 or 2 hours a day much probably 8hrs a day to achieve these gear drops the streamers advertise so readily like its a joke will make D4 look so easy to play… 3 outta 5 players will likely never ever achieve sadly, oh well its Diablo suck it up … Look, all this could change just up the drop rates .
Change or balance some of this stuff and you will smother the 3rd party market if trading will diminish and lesson the chance of another exploit maybe , it happened before and ruined the game in 2013 i think…
But trading is here to stay for now and if you try and remove it before DLC after paying 100$ for some players for the preorder is not likely to happen short of total anarchy…
I find it hard to believe that with modern AI tech, they can’t identity and ban botters. I was willing to give them a pass in 2012 with Diablo 3, but its 2024 now, and tech has evolved. I think they like their money so they allow it. Further if they made changes to trading and forced all trade to go through an in game gold only auction house it would be even easier to spot patterns.
If they boosted drop rates to make self found viable, there would be no market for botters, and they would move on. I like the suggestion someone else on thread made about adding an “opt out of trading” option, where if you choose this, you would receive in exchange higher drop rates.
I feel like the current crappy trading experience, plays right into the hands of botters, dupers, and anyone trying to make cash off of them game. I find it hard to believe that blizzard doesn’t know what they are doing. I think they created this broken trading system on purpose to create a market for cash botters.
Some simple things that I don’t think they do … If they catch a botter, they should find the credit card that the botter used to buy the product, and then find every other account that used that same credit card / payment method and ban all those accounts too. When they find a botter they should flag every user that botter traded with and ban those accounts unless they are confident that account is legit.
The problem then would be that all the Whales that buy all the cosmetics, and gear from third party sites would be banned.
Oh, that’s a great idea Blizz, then they would all buy new accounts. I see what you did there.
But there should be a market for players, because trading is a good thing. Blizzard just needs to enforce their own t.o.s. I’d rather have trading with botting in the game than no market at all. Player interaction is awesome. Blizzard just needs to deal with bots, not remove trading.
Trading could be good if that is part of the game … how you get the end. But they need to eliminate sketchy 3rd party sites, and having to add some stranger as a friend and invite them to your game to trade. There needs to be a regulated trading site where you find items, sell them for gold, and use that gold to get better items. If trading is what you have to do, then it needs to be first classed and easy to do, and not interfere with your game playing time. I don’t want to meet up with some stranger. If feels like a sketchy drug deal.
Blizzard actually doesn’t need to make up their mind. They’re making plenty of money with this compromise model that allows trading but doesn’t particularly support it.
Putting development time into an AH will not make them any money. Based on the number of posts in here asking for an AH, nobody is mad enough about the lack of one to actually stop playing the game.
You are absolutely right. I don’t like diablo.trade, and I don’t like having to add some random person as a friend, wait for them to join, and fumble through a trade. I don’t like that I have a lot of items other people want, that I’d be happy to sell for a price they’d like, but I can’t get matched up with them without wasting my night fumbling through clumsy trades.
Blizzard might be making some ok money off of the botters, but it seems to me that Diablo 4 is much less successful than Diablo 3, and if things don’t improve there might not be a Diablo 5. The core game is good. The graphics, sound, campaign … all excellent. I’d love to see a Diablo 5 but worry about it happening, because they are pissing off lots of long time players, in order to make a buck off of botters.
Just like piracy it’s largely due to inconvenience. There’s no in-game systems to handle public trading so everything gets done behind closed doors.
There’s some other things involved too but if there was a no real cash involved auction house that would solve a lot of these problems.
it would rock if they added this mode and allowed you to find stuff on your level 100 - aka high end item level stuff equipable on your character accounts (even as low as level 1!) that would be frigging FUN with a capital F