Blizzard Hosts Secret Meeting with Diablo 4 Content Creators - Are New Announcements on the Horizon?
Great. Game will be even more like D3 S10.
They need to stop listening to these parasites. But hey, they will further monetize off there sheep with more of those click bait videos they love making.
So looking forward to BL4 in sept.
Hilarious how half the forum is in denial that content creators and STREAMERS donât influence how Diablo 4 is developed yet itâs obvious with events like this. Are people just that much in denial?
I dont think ppl are in denial. From a business standpoint its smart. They use âstreamersâ for marketing. Streamers create there click bate meta builds and sheep follow whatever they do and cry that they played 300 hours less then X streamer and dont have what they have.
People are literally in denial. Look at my other threads and whenever I state a fact that streamers impact how the game is and Blizzard treats them as representatives of the community, which is 100% true, you have people arguing that streamers donât and no one listens to streamers. The denial is harder than those of flat-earthers and vaccine-deniers at this point. Itâs actually hilarious.
I have seen a lot of promises and hype in my time, much of it turned out to be 
. I will believe it when I see it.
The conspiracy theories run wild on this forum. Do they have some influence? Sure, is it a 1 for 1? Absolutely not. If it were weâd have an entirely different game right now going in multiple directions as each content creator wants something different from the game.
You stick them all in a room and theyâll come up with various idea of how to change the game just as we see in the forums. Now people may gravitate toward their ideas, which is why they get more traction when it comes to survey time. However without actual numbers, we canât definitively say one way or the other âthis was changed because of X personâ.
If anything people just love scape goats. If you want to blame some one, blame the devs.
Well said.
Of course Blizzard listens to them. They have admitted as such. But to say that streamers alone influence the game is just hyperbole.
Itâs a combination of streamers, players and developer decisions on how they want the game to progress.
I do blame the developers. The developers are listening to feedback from Diablo 3 streamers which would come to no surprise that they want Diablo 4 to be more similar to Diablo 3 because thatâs what brought them (as streamers) success in the first place.
Wudijo and Raxx have stated multiple times that they provided documents of changes they want in the game to Blizzard, and have created YouTube videos showcasing what changes they requested made it in. I can provide examples if you want, and while it might not be 1 for 1, itâs pretty damning to justify that they got what they wanted.
The questions I would ask are:
Does it matter at this point? Is what they have planned to little too late?
Great that they get streamers involved, but honestly, with This teams track record. See above.
I can show older posts of what I wanted making it into the game too. Again, they have influence, Iâm not saying they donât. However if people didnât want the same thing, it wouldnât go through. Look at the forums, Reddit, twitter, d4 discord, etc.
Iâve seen content creators wanting FFA loot back, others wanting dailies, others wanting the open world gone, more torment tiers, the list goes on. Again, itâs about the ideas that other players are attracted to when we see the changes happen.
The issue is you see one content creator mention it, the change happens, they say âlook what I changedâ and you believe it was solely because of them. There are people who agree with their ideas, itâs really as simple as that. They just happen to be the representative of those people.
The developers have to do what the upper row says. Game developers do not directly benefit from mtx and stuff. They get their monthly salary and thatâS it for most of em. They have no âreasonâ to botch the game for profits. There creative freedom is heavily tied up.
As long as blizz has the oder âMoney above everythingâ the game will stay poor.
The game is getting tougher to fix because all viable fixes, imo, mean abandoning about 80 to 85% of whatâs been developed in the game.
I tried applying and sending them a resume way early on to try and get this on the right tracks. But of course I never heard back. Canât say I didnât try though.
Iâll bet theyâre working on new and exciting ways to charge players for cosmetics. So hypedđ
Yep, the whole âaspectâ system in Diablo IV is definitely up for debate. Itâs the only ARPG I know where skills are tied directly to items. Personally, I think a more traditional setupâskills living solely in a skill tree, with items just providing flat damage or occasional effects (but not actual skills)âwould be better.
For example, an aspect that adds extra damage against frozen or poisoned enemies would make much more sense as part of a Frost or Poison branch within the skill tree. Right now, the tree feels overly simplified. It doesnât really allow us to build personalized or creative paths.
Itâs not really secret if you let all the streamers talk about it.
That said, if streamers are happy expect leaderboards and more convoluted builds so more people hit the build sites.
Maybe, but Raxxâs video critique was pretty apt. Itâs easy to call out the problems in this game, but the fixes raise various conundrums that most people donât talk about. And these conundrums are all caused by this game having a player base that consists of several different player demographics that are opposed to each other in various ways. This is because Diablo 2 and Diablo 3 are vastly different games.
In order to fix this game, Blizzard is going to have to sacrifice most of the player base vying for influence. And then hope the game that they put out grows over time from the isolated and focused player demographic that seeds it and is happy.
I really hope that they get to appoint a meeting or survey/whatever one of us at least to get the chance to speak from a position of some who donât have 200 hours to âinvestâ in the game and/or debunk one of the most repeated (obviously âred herringâ type) stuff
For Blizzard regarding content creators itâs all marketing and carefully cherrypicking which ones they think align with their views.
Blizzard wanted to make the game D3.2 so they partnered with all the D3 content creators. It wasnât the other way around. If they wanted more D2, theyâd approach D2 content creators instead or even POE. They didnât. It was a calculated decision.
Another thing these fools are getting into is scapegoating from the playerbase. Blizzard conveniently takes feedback from these guys and even when it backfires, theyâre always saying âthis was a community requestâ so theyâre throwing them under the bus, first come first served.
Are they at fault? Eh. Not really, no. They just happen to enjoy and promote slop. You can make fun of them for it if you want to but blaming them is silly. It is and it always be Blizzardâs fault. Here they are yet again essentially begging for our money because they want to sell that expansion. This is time will be different their lackeys are saying. Truly a circus.
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