BiS yellow items rmt trading will be a huge problem

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If blue and yellow items remain tradable to any and all players they will be sold for real money on sites such as d2jsp. Reason being you will want these to imprint legendary powers on. There will be huge amount of bots in the game and the chats will be bots spamming. Just keep the trading system from d3 and the only bots we have to worry about is bots that farm for personal gains, which is miniscule compared to rmt bots.

On top of that they will break their promise that you can’t buy power in this game if they keep it like this. It doesn’t matter if you can’t buy it in their official shop if they enable third parties to do it.

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Problem for who? How does this effrct your game play other than your own jealousy and insecurities of someone having better gear.

This isnt an e sport. There is no money on the line. Outside of 10 people that care nobody really gives a crap about ladder…

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The only time rmt triggered me was when I was in the fifth grade and having enigma made me think I was gozu.

I honestly couldn’t care less if someone has better gear than I have, especially in a game like Diablo.

At this point I am wondering who the people are who buy items for such a game. I mean, not even when I was in the fifth grade I would have bought items (I couldn’t anyways) but still. I was so happy building my first enigma through legit trading on Bnet.

If someone buys gear and it makes his life atleast a little bit better I think it is okay. This person probably has other bigger problems. I don’t think this person should buy items, but if it makes him happy…

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I mean they do explain like right away that the concern is with bots that will spam the chat and be roaming about the game potentially disrupting content.

Everyone should enable 2FA on Battle.net also to help protect them against phishing scams or data leaks that compromise accounts as liquidating player accounts to sell the gold will be a goal of some sellers.

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How do bots effect your game play bc they will exist anyway selling full accounts. Mute your trade chat.

Anything else ?

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I do agree with you they need to have a plan for bots and RMT they’re the bane of any game, but that wouldn’t really be them breaking their promise. The 3rd party actions aren’t sanctioned by Blizzard.

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It’s their game so it’s very much under their control

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reaching high lev absolutely nobody will care about yellow or blues (people will be farming for sacred and ancestral in torment and at the time they will have full legendary gear and imprint and upgrade legendaries, not yellows).

and low lev, well, any wonderful item no matter blue yellow or legendary how upgraded and imprinted you’d simply throw it away very few levs later, to swap for any just found trash in any dungeon. since even basic trash of higher lev simply outranks any “oh so great” low lev thing.

so i hardly see any of that happening. and even if it did oh well, anyone so dumb to go and waste real money for something which wouldn’t give them any advantage, would have punished themselves far more and far better than anyone else could.

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They really need to restrict trading to group or friend at time of drop only. Otherwise this will be a botters paradise.

Every time you set foot into a PvP zone, or try to push leaderboards, botters and RMT’ers will be screwing your game.

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You know, they could totally hire a chat monitor or gm or something. GGG (PoE) has these, with a fraction of the income. Why is it so hard for a billion dollar company to do the same?

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Doesn’t anyone think of the poor share holders?!?

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It might have long term effects. The people who play extreme min-max end game buy all the best gear, clear all the content, and then Blizzard balances future patch difficulty around them.

It’s just a hypothetical and unlikely, but it’s an example of how it could affect other people who aren’t directly involved

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Games with a player economy are much healthier than games with a developer economy. Look at path of exile, every single item in the game is tradable. That is just one example.

Not just blues and yellows should be tradable, but legendaries as well just like in the beta. Why grind 100 hours for the perfect piece of gear, when you can buy or trade it with another player who has it and doesn’t need it? The argument against RMT makes zero sense. IF someone has disposable income, and wants to engage in illegal RMT that’s their problem let them get banned.

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It wasn’t a problem for God rolls in D2 I’m not sure I get where’s the issue here

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Nothing but speculations really :man_shrugging:t2:

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Until you do anything in a Player vs Player environment, then you get steam rolled. 70%+ of the spots in D3 on the leaderboards are botted accounts. We have PvP in this game, when you get wrecked by RMT Randy with his wallet gear, you are going to understand exactly why it is bad.

ProTip: in CB, one of the best places to farm gear is in the PvP zone. RMT Randy is gonna love PK’ing you.

If they make Trading only with people in your group or on friendlist, they solve all of those issues. It will de-claw the RMT, and make most bots personal use. By taking away the majority of the bots, it makes it easier to focus on players who are cheating.

The fact they do not even offer a way to trade items in game tells me everyone will be going to websites to do it. D2JSP is going to make a mint off all this RMT trading. Blizzard absolutely needs to tighten their reigns on trading until they can make a way to trade in game easily with out needing a third party site. The fact they are leaving this ripe for RMT, tells me they have learned nothing over the years with all their botting problems in every other one of their games.

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Let’s talk about rmt bots, most players will hate this for sure, but times have changed, and the good old days can’t go back!

In fact, rmt bots are very important to most officials, and it is really impossible to resist the temptation of rmt bots. The relationship between the official and rmt bots is that fish help each other, and water helps fish. It has long been a tacit understanding and can be regarded as an undisclosed secret!

In some countries, there are worse-quality domestic companies. In fact, rmt bots are also invested by the company’s own directors to invest in third-party operations, so as to avoid at least a break point after an unfortunate accident. This is the world of businessmen, not N years ago It’s just for the players to make a pure game of Blizzard!

The main reasons are:
This is a fee-based software. The bottom line is that as long as you don’t attack the server, the more rmt bots, the higher the official revenue. This is a performance reward. If rmt bots players are blocked, they need to buy software again. As long as the popularity and traffic If the password can be maintained at the peak, all three parties win!

In the mmo+arpg game, in order to resist rmt bots and achieve complete disappearance, it unfortunately sacrifices a design that is friendly or fun to players!
In fact, it is a bit unrealistic to do so, the reality is so skinny!

There is no trading function between non-team players, and using the season mode(resetting characters) to reset the economy, just like D3, will soon face a large number of player losses, and the glory will no longer be there!

The official paid version of the pass will not be able to make money from a large number of potential players who are keen on the trading fun between non-team players!

Even if the transactions between non-team players are prohibited, rmt bots will still have the business of brushing equipment and selling accounts on behalf of them!

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I don’t mind if people trade whatever they want, with whatever currency they want. The thing i really don’t want is bots.

I played Albion online at launch, and had a blast. I wanted to be a resource farmer, crafting gear for adventurers and making in game money selling higher tier materials. But bots ruined the economy something fierce, and I eventually dropped the game because of it.

If you think bots can be prevented from ruining Diablo 4’s economy I can get behind trade, otherwise if bots are inevitable, i’d rather trade wasn’t there

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Many people think like you. Problem is that there is no way around it. And on top of that the game becomes pay to win.

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Almost all uniques and top legendaries will be 10x better than the upped yellow ones.
So it shouldn’t be an issue.