Yes we aren’t as powerful as before, but at least we aren’t sorc-tier in terms of weakness. No one can deny that blowing up uber lilith like pre-1.1 is unhealthy for the game.
I would say that barb is the model for the devs to follow in terms of balancing the other classes. Druid, necro and rogue all needs nerfs, and sorc needs buffs. Once these changes are made the perceived weakness of barb will disappear.
Being the 2nd worst class in the game is not being in a good spot. It’s just not. We are nowhere near the damage output of the top classes in the game.
Dude just stop posting these threads saying Barb is good bro. You are embarrassing yourself.
HOTA Barbs wouldn’t “Blow up” Uber Lilith either pre-patch. They were still waaaay far behind on kill times compared to the top-tier classes.
This, and other classes are still wrecking Uber Lilith in a minute or less AFTER the patch.
Put down the Cope pipe, current Barb is a stain on the loin cloth of the pre-patch & launch Barb and even that version is still worse than most current classes post nerf.
Who cares about kill times, can it still be done? Yes. Quiet pleb.
Of course it can still be done.
Either become one of the best gamers in the world and play pixel perfect for 10 minutes on your hota Barb. Thousands of attempts to learn the fight inside and out.
Or just roll a rogue, necro, Druid, blow her up in 1 minutes and skip every mechanic.
Do you really think that’s going to stay like that?
If I were you, I wouldn’t be basing anything from Uber Liliths fight as they highly likely gathered more then enough data from that fight to make the next Uber boss more balanced and thats highly likely all Uber Lilith was for, gathering data.
Lets see if all these mechanic skipping classes are still able to do it on the next boss.
It’s been like this since release. Except Barb was posting similar kills to the other classes and has been nerfed 10+ times. And the other 3 classes are still cheesing her down in 1 minute using the exact same infinite dot scaling “bug/exploit” that was nerfed for Barb day one.
We just got pages of nerfs and they didn’t address these classes. I’m thinking they just don’t know they exist or something. Why else would they have made it through those nerfs?
I believe the new Uber boss is level 80 though. Maybe they’ll use the data for future season Uber bosses.
In any game, regardless of what genre it is, no developer takes the time to make content that can be skipped by broken mechanics. It is redundant, therefor it doesn’t make sense that it will stick around too long before it gets fixed.
Hope you’re right. I think the Uber Lilith fight is really fun and it’s the only end game content really. It would be a lot better if it was as challenging for the other classes as it is for Barb, IMO. We will see.
Really thought this last huge round of nerfs would have taken care of them.
This argument would hold water if they had adjusted any of the broken builds in the patch notes. What we have post-patch is still
And for the “other” classes
Selective broken mechanics remains. Some classes are more equal than others it seems.
We were never powerful so stop trolling. Barb is the worst Class in the game. There is ZERO reason to play Barb. There really is only 3 Classes that are playable atm. Necro, Druid and Rogue.
Uber lilith doesnt drop anything
There is no torment 2 world capstone
Doesn’t matter if we can kill or not
Would it be nice? Sure but o well?
Lilith is part of the season journey. Being able to kill her actually counts for progressing it.
3rd post with the same topic since 1.1 launch eh? Lets just keep posting this every 12 hours.
@OP
Sorc is the worst class in the game, its not even close.
Go play sorc and barb will seem amazing in comparison.
With that logic:
Rogue go play Barb. Rogue will seem amazing in comparison.
The dude is whining like crazy on the Sorc thread (And yeah Sorcs are in a real bad spot), I think he “Thinks” if he posts Barbs are good over and over, that the Devs will see all the dismay in the Sorc threads and fix them faster?
Hard to say, but you can go look at his posting activity and see this pattern…
Barbs were always in a good spot. Every team wants to draft at least one. Necros want to summon one.
Cheerleading always welcome, louder the shouts the better.
Okay, seriously though (although seriously on the above), I found leveling barb to be very comfortable, just slow and boring. Never felt under powered once finally understood how barb synergies worked (very confusing!).
But I totally understand the sentiment and gripes about late game balancing against Barb’s favor.
And yes, to NineMikeMike’s point, compared to Sorc everything looks amazing in end game. It’s all perspective on how low on the totem pole you started.