I hope it’s caffeine you’re on and not something else 
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This person is my type of player: looks at all the negativity and turns that sour milk into something to get hyped about.
Experience-based hopium! Login boyz!
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Wrath of the berserker having an 80 minute cooldown is it’s issue.
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So I played Kick-Ground Stomp Barb this expansion, No Selig, No WW - Good Old Off-Meta on HC. We did T10 Meph( soon as limitless came back) ! NO Sneaky-Peak on mechanics!!.. just yeah tanked up as much as we could be + some skill(Barb IQ levels grade ) And yeah some other like stuff like 100% crowd control duration and whatever.
My Point Being: I’ve already been through most of it without Selig (as I’m sure others have) So for me - not much changes I guess. Lol… Hope Folk Get Hyped! Doing My Best Here! Haha 
It’s not too bad without Selig.. those who have been playing with Selig will have to get adjusted I guess ? Ofc It’s a new reality defensively wise and stuff .. We can get it! 
Maybe Not Pit 150 - But yeah - pushers will push
There’s Always A Way! HYPE!
Ugly Bastid to be nerfed next. 
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Ah YES! Well Good News! 
I have A WAY( Since I’ve done WOTB this expansion Launch)
Amulet + 2x Rings + 1 More Instance Of CDR( From Helm/Seal OR Gloves) - So essentially - GA CDR Masterworked on all amulet and rings and also GA Cooldown Tempers added + tinny itty bitty cdr from somewhere else ( seal or whatever )
Now - that leaves us at 25-27 secs CDR. Add Marshal On Top With the Shouts -4 secs. Brings us down to 21-23 secs.
Wotb Lasts for 14 secs or so at Rank 15( we need to skill it up) - If we choose spending Fury - if we spend Fury we prolong it’s duration by using the ‘‘MAXIMUM CARNAGE’’ Perk !
You could swap the overpower stacks for duration as well if you got another way to generate OP stacks - BUT not even needed!
I actually reduce my WOTB by 8 secs with Marshal- cuz If I got 7 sec CDR on my shouts I can use them twice and reduce those 8 before it even expires initially without spending fury and prolonging it !
IS this post 
? You decide!
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do you even know how cdr works?
im not saying its impossible to bring the cd to acceptable level. But you sir are doing a bit too much dreamy math.
it is not additive.
6 jewelry pieces with 6 times cdr + mw and Ga brings it to 53.1% cdr
thats still 42.22 seconds on wrath
adding another tiny extra cdr as u claimed , lets say 8% leaves it still at 38.84 seconds cd for wrath.
You sir drunk a bit of too much copium, so ur math skills are completely wrong.
EDIT: forgot to GA the temper so final cd would be 36.98 seconds
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Yeah, it would be nice if everything could just be fire
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Hi - I think we got different values when it comes to CDR. But I’m currently using WOTB and have been using WOTB this whole expansion for my Off Meta Kick-Ground Stomp Build with a near 100% uptime.
This is what I have:
Amulet: 16% CDR as an affix(master worked to orange)
12% CDR as a temper
Ring1: 16% CDR as an affix(master worked to orange)
12% CDR as a temper
Ring2: 16% CDR as an affix(master worked to orange)
12% CDR as a temper
Gloves: 16% CDR as an affix(master worked to orange)
Seal: 9.5% CDR.
When all of that is combined with diminishing returns we reach: 69.24% CDR. Which leaves us at about 27 seconds cdr. I hope this makes sense. It’s a sacrifice - cuz you loose an affix slot a masterwork where you could have damage etc. Like it is a sacrifice… but as you said - it can work.
But combine this % with Marshal and with the shouts being used 2x times for it’s duration. You are near having 100% uptime on WOTB. Even though Barawling Versions of Kick & Ground Stomp don’t spend fury - I spend it with Rallying Cry to prolong the duration.
It’s doable.
you cant mw 2 affixes its 9 and 16
also you rather do helm instead of gloves or u sacrificing another offensive affix.
Now to give u a bit of a perspective you sacrificed 4 offensive slots, that could be a multiplier for a meager dmg increase of 20% As or 25%x multi + some weak proccs/aura that isnt really that scalable
Effectively making ur whole wrath plan moot, its simply not worth, Call is simply better.
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their are shout cd reductions and things to lower it but yeah it can be annoying
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i mean you can be lucky and get a shattered vow to roll for fire and stuff
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True about the 12 and 9% - they are actually 9% - my fault there. You are right!
But nonetheless - 70% CDR is achievable with values and that’s enough to have WOTB + Marshal and using Shouts twice and also spending enough Fury to prolong WOTB. All of that does give you near 100% uptime and it works so. Yeah. One or the way or the other once you get the CDR you have it.
Like if you wanted - Tuskhelm as a charm = 10% more CDR.
Crucible Set = 10% More CDR.
Plenty of sources apart from gear affixes and tempers.
My CDR is actually 68.8%. - sitting at 28 seconds here.
achievable at what cost for what benefit, its simply not worth over call which gives even better boni, berserking you can get from other sources too.
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i will mess around in the ptr with few classes and builds but no real hope since they nerfd limitless rage to limp noddle rage and few things overpower gutted to crap
Call is getting nerfed. Call Of The Ancients will give only 5[x]% per summoned Barb. WOTB is getting 30[x]% on top of the 100% increase to berserking which in truth is 25[x]% for the berserking part. But nonetheless. COTA is getting nerfed and WOTB becomes mroe viable - so folk need to start thinking about WOTB.
Like I believe I said it - you loose aggreagate multiplicative dmg on the affixes not being masterworked and just an affix slot - true.. but like.. what option do you got ? You wan’t WOTB active and like we have to either use Ugly Bastard Fire Builds or Crown or even like Tuskhelm etc etc. And that’s gonna be the way!
as i said im not saying its impossible, but im highly sceptical about it still. opportunity cost is still very high, those tempers arent free either.
Also i dunno about crucible set outside of very specific builds. On Selig it was kinda mandatory but outside of that the other set is much better.
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