Attack speed cap

Hi,

I’m going for a frenzy build on my barb but I’m underperforming hard and I just realized why.

I’m supposed to get +144.6% attack speed with my frenzy stacks and other stats from items but I’m hard capped at 49.8% when viewing the stats during combat.

I have the Battle Trance amulet (+2 frenzy max stacks) so my frenzy skill is supposed to get me +100% attack speed if it is in fact additive.

Without those stacks I’m at +19.8% with:
+8.8 from a helmet (for basic skills only),
+5.8 from bracer,
+2.6-2.7 (2x1.3) from magic nodes on the Flwaless Technique board,
+2.5 from “wild force” rare node ont the Flawless Technique board.
Those values do add up correctly it seems.

I also have the Rapid Aspect imprinted on a 2 handed sword that gives me +30% attack speed (with basic skills only).

What I suppose is happenning is that some buffs are basic skills specific and thus don’t show in the stats tab.
What I initially thought was that frenzy was a multiplicative value but it doesn’t seem to be the case (I attack once and I already am at the capped attack speed with only 1 frenzy stack active).

Also the level 10 one handed sword expertise doesn’t work (+15% attack speed after killing a crowd controlled ennemy, double if double wield).

So that’s my Frenzy barbarian experience so far…

Edit: The level 10 one handed sword expertise DOES work but cannot go past the attack speed cap:
I’ve been playing with the “lunging strike” basic skill since the frenzy doesn’t contibute to anything other than damage reduction (with the “combat frenzy” upgrade) if you already have attack speed capped and so I try not to reach that attack speed. Only then did I notice that the sword expertise is working (but not showing a buff on toolbar).

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I’ve noticed the same thing. Specifically, I noticed when I add Accelerating Aspect to my 2-handed weapon, I’m supposed to get a 50% attack speed increase when I crit with a Core Skill. I can see the icon proc’ing when I crit with the core skill, but my Frenzy attack speed stays the exact same. I’m also using other attack speed items and the Basic Attack speed aspect.

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Fellow Frenzy Barb here, If there is a hidden cap to attack speed im done.
Blizzard lost my trust 15 years ago with the hidden WF internal cd in WoW.
Either the tool tip does what it says, or why are we even playing this?
Beyond frustrated, disappointed and about to lose the last remnant of brand loyalty I have left.

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My friend is currently trying to craft a Frenzy Build. I really hope they don’t have an Attack Speed cap… especially when it sounds like you can increase your attack speed well past that point.

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There is definetly a cap or some sort of harsh diminishing returns, and considering that the optimal way to play barb is to generate fury with shouts and ignore basic attacks blizz should really look into this, maybe have a different cap for different skills or classes or just for basic skills.

I was using +40-50% aspd on my 2h mace and rapid +60% for basics on my 2h sword and the frenzy neck, double swing did seem a bit faster but frenzy seems to be the same or only slightly slower, this is really strange considering stacking damage aspects will give you hundreds of thousands or millions of damage but stacking aspd seems pointless.

I agree there should be diminishing returns but currently its not right.

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