Are they doing D5?

IT Is very sad to see that streamers what were Always Positive And didnt say anything bad to diablo ,Now made videos when complaining about endgame . Blizz promised so many times endgame, 2years
And we Have still just PiTS.so question Is, ,Are they finished with D4 And They makeing D5? Or They really want to Lost all good players And people WHO supporting game So long ?

I just thinking about s9 And what Is this?

  • no endgame
  • no season event
  • just 5 new spells
  • huge Nerf all class

In s8 we got new bosses ,30 season spells ,we Have some events.And Now nonescalation dungeons ,So another undercity…why???

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If they’re serious about not making us wait 10+ years for the next Diablo game, they should be well into D5 development.

Keep in mind this was said early on. I get the feeling Microsoft will have something else to say on the matter when/if the time comes to discuss making D5. Either way, I’m not sure why people think it’ll turn out better than a game made by the same company they don’t like now.

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I dont really remember a time where streamers didnt say anything bad about d4. Hmph.

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  1. I don’t personally care what streamers say or don’t say about D4. I play for me, not them.
  2. I hear a lot of talk about “end game” without any unified anything about what end game looks like.
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Agreed. Its just a bizarre outgrowth of the times. Internet personalities with fan bases.

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Well, presumably Blizz is capable of learning. They definitely learned things from D3. Diablo 4 was vastly better at launch than D3 was when it launched. They made some different mistakes this time and tried some things that didn’t work. The real question is if it will be released a year too early again.

I think Blizzard is capable of changing. As has been clearly shown since launch. I think when they finally pick a direction and stick to it we’ll see a better game all around. Doesn’t mean everyone will like it, but it’ll be better than the constant flip flopping we have now.

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I politely disagree with basically everything stated here, but of course, I recognize that D4 vs D3 is a subjective opinion.

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Did you play D3 at launch when legendaries and sets were trash, only yellow gear was good, and there was literally nothing to do except do parts of the campaign over and over? Just curious.

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Sure did buddy.
Swap legendaries for “most uniques” and you’re describing D2. And D3 had a far more flexible and adaptive skill system than D2 did.

Launch D4 started out pretty much like launch D3 except with slower gameplay and with way more inventory bloat. Nonsensically random affixes (yep, I’m a sorc, sure do want a piece of gear with STR and DEX and some damage on Tuesday, wheee) and incredibly repetitive “endgame,” check and double check.

Whoever thought “content” was the same 5 or 6 dungeons copy pasted twenty times each with 100 minutely different difficulty levels should be taken out behind a shed.

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The question is:
Do I want Diablo 5? I don’t know.
Diablo 3, in my opinion, doesn’t deserve to be placed between Diablo 2 and Diablo 4—whether because of its aesthetics, story, or the fact that it turned the series into an arcade game.

Diablo 4 is, in some ways, better than Diablo 3, but I think in many aspects it’s still inferior to Diablo 2.
What I miss from Diablo 2 is Magic Find and enemy immunities.
It was great because each zone or Act had better chances of dropping specific items than others. That made farming feel less monotonous.
Unlike now, where we all do the same content in the same places.
And the enemy immunities allowed you to farm more efficiently in certain areas, with one character or another.

At least for me, since I’ve always played solo in Single Player.

Diablo 4… isn’t all that interesting.
Constantly increasing difficulty levels and constantly raising gear levels is a boring and artificial way of creating content.
Having gloves with +3 to Incinerate, then +5, and then being able to upgrade them to +9 is not exciting.

It’s the same problem WoW has with Mythic+.
People think doing a dungeon from a past expansion with current gear is “content.” It’s not.
Content means new dungeons. New raids. New gear.

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If you liked D3 at launch, that’s certainly an opinion you can have. The only people I knew that liked D3 at launch were the ones who made thousands of $$ selling gear they farmed with bugged builds on the RMAH.

To get back to the OP’s question, I think it’s likely they have focused more on D5 development than D4 at this point. It won’t surprise me if future D4 expansions are canceled and some of the features get rolled out in DLC like happened with D3. I might be wrong, but that’s the sense I get. Time will tell.

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I loved D3 at launch. I checked out the RMAH once to see what was available; my eyes bulged at the prices, so I closed it & never looked back.

That.

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I guess no one remembers Error 37 any more. Game wasn’t even playable the first couple of days. :upside_down_face:

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I don’t care what any streamer thinks. It is all clickbait and if they are just now complaining about D4 they are about 4 seasons behind. Sounds like it is populist click bait rather than objective opinion. But then again, what else would you expect from a streamer?

Stop looking at D4 as a game. Leadership never has. It is a marketing tool where decisions are made on metrics. They have manipulated those metrics so badly they no longer reflect reality. Changes are made on what the marketing team tells the salesman to do.

You have to look at their definition of good players. Those are the ones who make purchases or are likely to make purchases. They don’t even need to play. That is the only players they want.

As far as D5 goes. They may have something in the works but I doubt it. If it comes from the same marketing and sales team we have with D4 then it will be an even bigger clown show than we have now. NO thanks on that.

Imagine if they do an Overwatch 2 style D5…
Exact copy of Diablo 4, but they slap a 2 on it and make it F2P after wasting 3 years of dev time

Ask 5 people on this forum what “end game” is and you will get 9 different answers.

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Has the money significantly slowed down or stopped in D4?

My guess is not yet.

They still have their roadmap they believe in. My opinion is after the next expansion, depending on money is when they will start to really even consider it.

They have unhappy customers no matter what they do. But the driver is always money. We can complain about the state of the game till we are blue in the face, but it matters little if they are still above whatever target they have for money then players metrics.

The industry really needs to get back down to reality and keep those development cycles around 5 years or less. Ten years is absurd, but consumers buying MTX for ten years is even more absurd—so in some ways the consumers at large asked for this.

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