AoZ - Tier 20 Title - Zenith

There is a title for completing tier 20 in AoZ: Zenith.

Right now this had only been achieved by a few players and is out of reach for 99% of the player base that can even access AoZ.

I would recommend 2 solutions:

  1. Lower the title to level 10 or at least 15. This would make it more reasonable for builds outside of Hota, ball lightning and the rogue combo point breaker builds to achieve.

  2. Further decrease the experience needed to get glyph level 50. This is completely necessary for even Hota to reach level 20 and unless you can play all day for the next 30 days you still likely wont get the glyph to 50 with out boosting, even after the changes.

If you are going to have a title at least make it reachable by the dedicated people who have completed access to AoZ by playing all season and have worked hard on their builds.

Thank you.

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having it for t20 is fine. its meant to be an achievement. its not so everyone can get it but only those who put in the time and effort to level their tob glyph and can achieve t20

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I agree with the OP. Only sorcerer and Barb can do a T20 therefore the title should be at a tier that all classes can reach. The higher tiers are so that Barb and Sorc can push themselves.

Also, it’s not difficult you just need to sink in a ton of time to get the glyph to tier 50 which is a boring grind that nobody wants to do at the end of a season.

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arpgs are grinds. if you are unwilling to grind for an achievement then you dont deserve it. it is so funny when people ask for handouts and participation trophies

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I totally disagree. It’s good if there are some almost unreachable goals, which don’t give any competitive advantages. Titles and cosmetics are really good for this.

Everyone is free to copy the build and do the same grind and get equally good at playing the game if they really want the title. I kind of get the point of demanding it to be achievable with many or all characters and builds – But with Diablo style naturally unbalanced game, this would just mean there is no challenge at all remaining after listening all the whining - just like before the whole AoZ and just like D3 GR150 nowadays.

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This is ok but dedication alone isn’t enough in this game. D4 devs need to do their part so that every primary build has a chance to reach similar results if played by dedicated players. D4 devs need to be dedicated too.

Right now, if you are a dedicated Incinerate player, no matter how good you are, you are nowhere near against a dedicated Hota player.

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They could try balancing their game so not only just those 2 classes and builds can get it. Just a thought, Blizzard.

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Isnt the point to have something difficult that only a few will achieve? Why lower the standard just so more people can get it?

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Maybe we can change “NBA CHAMPION” for any team that makes the play-offs.

No one feels bad! QQ

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There has been many of games out on the market that have achievements or daunting tasks that some people will not acquire said rewards. Look at Diablo 2, how many people do you think will hit level 99? Because if you know how long of a slog it is truly many won’t do it.

There needs to be such things like this, only the few and hardcore dedicated players will achieve such feat. You make it so everyone can achieve it what’s the point it’s like all the rest of the useless titles out there.

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So you want a participation trophy for something you can’t complete? So all the hard work done by those who have reached T20 is just a moot point according to you. Let’s hand out Uber Uniques to everyone while we’re at it too. When you start a new character you’ll already be leveled to 100, have full gear, you can one-shot everything in the game and you’ll never die because you’ll be invulnerable to all types of damage.

I don’t understand this mentality of wanting everything for free and never having to work for anything. You either live at home and don’t have to pay rent, or you’re so well off you never have to worry about money again, either way I don’t want my games to be handing out achievements like they’re candy.

:speech_balloon: Replying to OP:

The Blizzard D4 Team should have made the AoZ event doable for all Diablo IV players who PAID for this buggy, broken, beta game! Instead, Blizzard rolls out this epic fail for the last month in Season 2 game play making it almost impossible for all players to participate and enjoy! Not to mention, there is NOTHING fun about this event aside from it being repetitive, unrewarding, boring and grindy as hell!

Just awful and disappointing of Blizzard to do this BS to all D4 players who paid for this game! Totally inconsiderate and messed up, not to mention the ridiculous mass nerfs only make D4 unbalanced, unrewarding and not fun!

Don’t get me wrong, as I mentioned before, D4 Season 2 was off to a great start and the game has improved, but to add this epic fail AoZ event to the game with only a month left for the remaining season 2 in the game is just bad and inconsiderate of Blizzard to do to all players.

Hopefully, D4 Season 3 and beyond will be a lot better than this! - Cheers! - JJ -

Well your comparison is bad. To make it like it is in D4 with Hota barb vs anything else would go like this: 10 years old children playing vs NBA team. Doesn’t sound fair does it ?
That is exactly the disparity between builds.

So the title is for barbs only might just as well remove it from list of challenges unless you are on barb/sorc character.

Barbs will get the early 20 clears, yes. Other classes are catching up fast. Sorc is at 19 and probably higher. This was 4 days ago
World First Sorcerer Solo Abattoir of Zir Tier 19 - 8:04 Clear (Level 10 Glyph Only/ No Exploit) - YouTube

Necro infimimist also doing super well
INFINITE AoZ PROGRESSION - Players clearing HIGHEST Tiers with Ease (youtube.com)

Don’t follow druid, maybe they need help, lol

kinda awesome! But to lower it from 20 to 10/15 devalues the achievement, I love achievements and things to collect in game and I would be pissed if I put the effort to get this title to only find out a week later everyone can get it by doing half the work.

I personally won’t get this title and i’m okay with that, I just dont have the urge to play anymore, not sure why but this game lost its “fun” for me. Any game that is no longer “fun” loses its purpose and therefor isnt a game anymore.

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tier 20 is fine, but just change the title to “Im a hota barb or BL sorc” since those are the only two classes that can do it.

If there were more than two builds that could do this I would agree with you.

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didnt Raxx predict poison shred druid would win this? someone play one!

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It’s not a grind, it’s about running the right class with the broken builds. So I agree it’s not really an achievement.

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Well, while we are on the topic, why not give a special title for those doing it on Hardcore?