Can the devs please consider adding an amazon class to the game, that has a PROPER bow class and an AMAZING javalin system?
The rogue class its in my opinion a complete mess in skills. And i say that becouse it was the first class I made in diablo 4 and i hated it just so much. its 3 classes in one. bow, trap and assassin, and neither of them its ended entirely tbh. The trap rogue is bad, bow rogue its a joke and the skills arent even fun to play. the assassin is the only one “decent” and (i didnt like it). some ppl did, and thats fine!
My point why put 3 classes in 1? just make them seperately and more unique.
I really love amazons from d2 and hope devs add them in d4, but with this rogue class i doubt so much
Well in the world we live in today - Having a Male “Amazon” won’t be an issue.
(seriously though: I do love the Class. Sadly it’s unlikely because Rogue fills the niche and rounds out the possibilities for the Zons skills. )
I don’t think javazon would fit in well because it would be an actual effective clearing class. They would have to gimp it so badly that it would just be a tragedy. Blizzard wants us to play this game very slowly. They want as much time engagement as possible and they can’t do it by making a fun endgame meta loop. They have to just slow us down and make everything a grind.
That’s why Wiz/Sorc have been so bad in D3 and D4.
They literally don’t know what to do with them so they make them the most resource dependent Class and onerous to play to keep them “in check”.
That’s exactly it. The class itself is too fast, fundamentally, so they have to gimp it so bad that it just seems comical at times.
Exactly.
Rogue for example is an easy to balance class.
They hit HARD pound for pound by resource metrics.
If you were map out power per point of resource - I’m sure Sorc/Wiz would finish last. (I’m not referring to current D3 wiz. That’s always been a weird all or nothing class in D3)
Sorc/Wiz they don’t allow this bc as you said - it’s “too fast”.
Only way to stabilize it is to make everything overpriced resource wise and “timed”.
Edit- To add something…
Unpopular opinion but I thought on it while having a convo with a friend last night.
“Elemental Immunities”(and phys) was what kept power in check in D2.
That’s where everything went crazy and south with D3/4.
They were actually a good thing to keep classes in check and balanced.
Then came the Hdin.
They did something smart with the new GCs too. Breaks immunity but at severely reduced performance.
well i dont totally agree with the clearing slow u saying, the top tier builds we have in d4 are exploding mobs and clearing even t100 now in less then 3m. its a few builds that can do that, thats the other gigantic problem of the game but yet, this isnt the discussion here.
An amazon with lightning fury for example, would be top tier probably, but would have mana issues like some skills, like fire sorc or some barb or nec skills like we have now, its the devs work to figure out how to manage those things tho, the thing is that the rogue it self cant accomplissh 3 classes in one! We have seen in d3 the demon hunter that was a bow class with some assassin skills, but it hadnt trap skills basically. The rogue has an ultimate trap skill passive trap skills and it goes on!
We need a proper Jav and Bow class
The amazon no longer fits into Blizzard’s agenda because it’s a gender-locked class. It’s okay in D2R because it’s a remaster of a museum piece.
its ok they can make a class with the same aspect, just gotta put some work into it
Idk what they’d call it, though.
and thats the whole point. rogue could have been such a cool bow class and let the other 2 aspects to another time for other classes to come. why throw 3 thing all at once. such a waste