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I had some decent fun last season with Rend + Rupture and using that 2H unique that made blood pools or something.
Reading all the barb nerfs this season to Gushing Wounds + legendary node does not give me any hope.
Direct Damage with Rend isn’t that great. It is okay and you can get it to work, but you will need to change your build a couple of times if you stick with it. I actually used WA up until I got Ravenous/Tibaults/Third Blade/Rage of Harrogath then swapped out to Gushing Wounds. IH is pretty easy and all you have to do is swap out Mighty Kick for Power Kick on Bosses.
You are applying 2 stacks of Rend every second and spamming Rupture with insane Attack Speed. Max Fury making use of Heavy Handed and Cut to the Bone. The only problem is Lucion and Starless Skies is ideal but Encroaching Wrath is bugged and does not work with Lucion.
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I don’t even know what half of this means, haha.
Never though of using kick on bosses before.
Last time I tried Rend I used 3 shouts, Rupture and CotA (mostly cuz I just like that skill as a small boost for hard elites). I don’t think CotA does any dmg though.
Ring of the Ravenous is a massive multiplier on Rend Damage and since they lowered the cooldown of applying Rend via Brawling Skills to every 1 second applying 2 stacks of Rend, this means that basically you are applying a stack of Rend every .5 seconds which would be the equivalent of you maximizing Attack Speed and spamming Rend to build Bleed damage.
Ring of Ravenous with Ancestral Charge, Rage of Harrogath and CDR allows you to basically apply Rend to a huge area constantly. Leap does something similar. Kick having 2 Charges with a 9 second Base CD can be spammed and gives you Vulnerability. The Rends getting applied extends that Vulnerability indefinitely.
There are not any good guides for this sort of build but it is really fun since it is highly active and mobile.
On your Skill Bar:
- Iron Skin
- Rallying Cry
- Kick
- Charge
- Rupture
- Wrath of the Berserker
With Tibaults and Slaking, Iron Warrior, Rallying Cry, WoTB, Charge you will have more Fury than you know what to do with letting you set up Max Fury Power Kicks constantly. You will have Rend as high as you can get it but not on your Bar. It isn’t needed on your Skill Bar with Ravenous.
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Thanks.
No Rend on bars? There’s still some CD with Rupture, isn’t there? Don’t we have to spam Rend to get bleed stacks on bosses?
I’ll have to try this in-game sometime if I make a barb.
What about the 2H unique? I know last time I used that, Rupture was off CD quite quickly, so I had less use to use/have Rend on my bars.
If you find a good Third Blade it turns your Weapon Mastery Skills into Core Skills with a Fury cost, so, no Cooldown or Charges on Rupture anymore. Even without that, having Weapon Master Aspect on say Boots gives you 2 Charges and you can spam Rupture enough between CDR and Rage of Harrogath. Rupture CD on Rings helps a lot. You do not need to put more than 1 point into Rupture Ranks and Fields of Crimson is straight up bad.
You do not need Rend on your Skill Bar if you have Ring of Ravenous since it automatically applies Rend when you hit an enemy with a Brawling Skill. This basically gives you a free Skill Slot and spamming Rend is not efficient.
Rather than worry about Rend Size Temper you can max Rupture Size and say Leap Slam Size if you are using that with Giant Strides to spam Leap it works really well to apply Rend to a large group and either a Slow for Creeping Death, or Fury gen.
Creeping Death and Encroaching Wrath on 2H until you get a Grandfather. You will want to make sure you can apply multiple forms of CC to maximize Creeping Death. Slow and Stun are basically guaranteed always.
Like I said, lots of different ways to build this and tinker which is fun. You get to the point where Rupture is alternated between Brawling Skills maximizing Bleeds but Rupture itself is applying a Bleed with Enhanced Rupture, it Overpowering is applying a Bleed from Gushing Wounds, and the Gushing Wounds proc itself.
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Can you elaborate why FoC sword is bad? The blood pool where enemies take 30% dmg seems good and it got buffed this season I thought?
I was spamming Rend + basic attack to apply as many stacks as possible before using Rupture. Not sure if that was incorrect way to play bleed earlier.
Sure, x30% for a 2H is very low. The Blood Pools also have a very low Base Damage on the Bleed and are stationary, this is similar to why Quakes suck. The item has zero synergy with Gushing Wounds also as it is missing Critical Strike, Critical Hit Damage. Rupture Cooldown reduction is largely not needed since it already has a low CD and you can spam it pretty easily without that. Damage to Bleeding Enemies is an Additive Damage source.
If this was a 1H Weapon, it would be decent enough with the current stats and bonuses. If you have the option to craft it, Grandfather blows FoC out of the water every which way also, however that isn’t a fair comparison.
FoC Blood Pools need to provide you with DR and scale better. Rupture itself does not scale in damage at all with Ranks, which way in the past it used to and was extremely good. If this also increased the Base Damage and Enhanced Rupture Bleed Damage, it would be more fitting.
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A bit off topic, while the quakes themselves suck but using them for stuff like Earthquake/Bul-Kathos/Rumble is pretty great for WW builds.
Sure, but look at the amount of investment also for something that drops off. In Blizzard’s infinite wisdom, Executioner Aspect procs of killing an enemy with an Overpower, something Whirlwind cannot do. The Quake proc should work differently to allow it to work while Channeling. Having to stop channeling for maintenance is problematic.
- Defensive Aspect
- Offensive Aspect
- Giant Strides Aspect
- Leap Slam Size Temper
- Earthquake Duration Temper
- Earthquake Size Temper
- Rumble Glyph
All for something that is temporary and does not move with you.
You’re going to be upset if you make a barb, doesn’t matter which build.
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My advice is DONT. I pretty much max out my gear on my rend ruputure build. I can clear T8, but its very tiring. My bleed tick is now 400 mil. rupture dmg is 2.4 bil. I am still struggling killing T8 bosses. AND the farming speed is so low.
By the way,I am now blasting with my new druid to farm mats for my new barb build…IRONY…