While doing the quest Piercing the Veil, after you make your way through the sand storm. Lorath mentions that Elias has the ancient magical item : Sightless Eye. Lorath also mentions that it can see into the future even.
So my question is, if that ancient magical item has that capability
why didn’t Elias see his undoing or even why did Lorath do what he did and talk to the Tree of Whispers for Lilith’s location?
There’s been other plot holes in this story that are bugging me. My big one was the soulstone stuff. Assuming Astaroth was a big enough big bad, when he died, his essence should have zipped on back into the soulstone. But then, they just reformate it like a hard drive lol. We fast forward to when Lilith is about to enter Mephs sanctum, and who should we see there for no reason? Astaroth…Not even the prime evils reformed like that lol. Also, Duriel being a rando encounter added nothing for me. Andariel, sure, she was a plot item, but Duriel was some sort of weird fanfare…I’m completely surprised they didn’t find some way of shoehorning Izual in there…again lol.
The Sightless Eye probably doesn’t give you exactly what you want all the time. It could show possibilities because the future isn’t set in stone.
He also still had a soulstone in his forehead. It could have taken them a min or 2 to fix that.
Ehh nope. I took a screen of him at that point, saying “So here you are at last, to collect your safe passage to the Cathedral of Hatred”. He has a hole in his head. This was from June 5th, BUT, he does still have Yorin’s body…This campaign is a mess lol.
Oh, well he still wouldn’t have a hole in his forehead, lol.
No, he shouldn’t, because he shouldn’t even have that body. Every body they inhabit makes their form look different…It’s like these devs never played this game lol.
Same reason Myriam Jahzia in D3 refused to help the player with foresight, you don’t know what you will change if you mess with time.
Myriam was emotionally scarred by an experience where she tried to use her foresight to change the future. She encountered a girl who had been toying with dark magic, but when Myriam foresaw demonic possession in her future, the girl begged her for help. Because the magic had already tainted her, ceasing its practice would not be enough. Ergo, Myriam crafted her a protective charm. However, while the demon couldn’t possess the girl, it spitefully possessed her father instead, killing the girl’s mother and sister. When the demon showed the man what he had done, he took his own life. Last Myriam heard, the girl she had saved had been committed to an asylum. Since then, Myriam refused to change the outcomes seen through her foresight.
My guess is that the reason why they didn’t use the Sightless Eye to see the potential future is simply because they (both Lorath and Elias) lacked the ability to do so. Most likely only the most skilled priestess, someone who is incredibly skilled in the mystical arts, could utilize the Sightless Eye in such a way. That’s why Elias simply used the eye to see locations or communicate with people from afar, and why our character simply used it to spy Lilith’s position.
Also, it likely would’ve been better for Lorath to have not used to eye to find Lilith’s location, since we saw what happened to our character the second time we used the eye on Lilith and she temporarily trapped us. The only reason we managed to escape was due to Mephisto’s help. If Lorath had been trapped, I doubt he’d been able to escape. As such, it seems there’s great risks involved with using the Sightless Eye if one is untrained and/or incapable.
That is true. That said, we don’t know the origin of the soulstone used in D4 (whether it’s manmade like the Black Soulstone) or a remnant of the Worldstone (Inarius hinted that may be the case). It’s origin as well as whoever fashioned it, may play a huge role in how the stones operate. After all, the original three soulstones were created and fashioned by the Archangel Tyrael.
Judging by the dialogue and the campaign, it looks like the soulstone in D4 was created by Donan, who, despite his skill in the art, admitted to having uncertainty with it’s performance. Lastly, Astaroth’s soulstone was damaged (likely from our battle), and as such couldn’t be used to contain him any longer after his defeat, and as such may have been why he appeared in Hell in front of Lilith.
Tbh, Lorath hinted that we may see Duriel. He had speculated that we would have either seen Andariel or Duriel, at least due to the preparations and tragedy that Elias had carried out in Ghuulrahn, which was subjecting the entire city in untold pain and anguish, which serves as fuel for Duriel and Andariel respectively. Considering how Duriel and Andariel are twins (as far as demons go), it would’ve been odd to not see Duriel imo. That said, I did think it was kind of lackluster of our character to not have brought up their encounter of Duriel to Lorath.
Being capable of seeing into the future doesn’t mean you instantly know all that will ever come to pass.
If I have a device that lets me view the future, how do I control what I want to see? And how does the passage of time work while I’m viewing? Would it take me years to follow my life for the next few years and see what happens to me?
I guess that depends on whether the plot for a given story has a fully deterministic universe or not.
I mean if the future isn’t set in stone then you can’t see into it. Like I’m imagining what the future is right now, and I don’t need an artifact to do that.
The artifact shows possible futures. Just knowing the future would change it.
Yeah so does my imagination. If the artifact has the possibility of being wrong its pointless.
Considering how the Sightless Eye didn’t help prevent the disaster that the Sisterhood of the Sightless Eye had suffered from (losing their monastery to Andariel in Diablo 2), I wouldn’t put much stock in it’s ability to allow one to see the future.