A skin is never worth half the price of a game

This line of thinking is not correct.
Indie games can be far superior to any bad AAA game that misses.
The most recent example is Pal World, the most popular one is No Man’s Sky, not at launch but today.

Yup. I rarely buy release day games. The last one I bought was Midnight Suns, and well… that went south quickly. I did heavily enjoy that game though.

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Last time I did was FF 16. Lesson learned. Hated that game, though I forced myself to complete it…because I spent $70 lol

FF 16 should’ve been called Game of Thrones: Kaiju Edition.

The last FF I liked was FF X. I didn’t even like XII.

At least I still have Dragon Quest.

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It is sad, but not at all surprising.

What’s wild is that people spend multiple times more than they paid for the game and they still don’t own ANYTHING.

Just think about this. You don’t own D4. You own a license that lets you play it. You don’t own those cosmetics. You have effectively paid for a license that allows you to equip them.

It’s the same for all of these live services. The entire game is funded by the whales that purchase every cosmetic they can get their grubby hands on while the majority of players simply don’t bother opening the shop tab because 2 skins are the equivalent of this months electricity bill.

It is what it is.

Considering the number of people I see running around in towns with the $25 skins from the shop, I don’t think they are having any problem selling them.
I have noticed a few plainer armor sets lately that weren’t priced as high. And a freebie once every couple weeks, usually a small weapon the class I was playing couldn’t use. :yawning_face:

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If you can’t see the problem with it then that is an even bigger problem.

I wish. My electric bill is usually 6-8 skins worth per month.

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Nope, no problem. The “problem” is in your mind.

I don’t buy rom com movies. I dislike them. I don’t want nor need them to enjoy movies.

I don’t buy large commercial printers. Why? Same reason, I don’t need one.

Doesn’t stop manufacturers making them and selling them to people that do. Cosmetic skins are a want. You obviously want one, but dislike the price. Don’t buy it then. Speak with your wallet.

$25 a skin is absolutely absurd. I can can empathize with $10 skins for a live service game even with it costing $40-$60 to play, but this is getting out of hand. I hope those defending these prices get priced out of cosmetics in the games they enjoy in the future while anyone with more disposable income call them poor or entitled.

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Nope. Still own zero, I’ve never been forced in to any cosmetic purchases in D4.

Try again.
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It seems like you have not been able to get the point of my text except that one line, thats was rhethorical. But hey, at least I know of what kind of level we are talking.

I don’t think that word means what you think it means.

The point is that if you dislike the price of something (especially a cosmetic item that is not a necessity) - don’t buy it. I haven’t.

Are you of such weak will and calibur of character that you feel compelled to purchase something optional that doesn’t affect gameplay? Nevermind; THAT was rhetorical.

I get the feeling that you have such a weak will or character to really understand what it’s about.
The issue isn’t that you spend money on it or that there are people who like to spend money on it.
Rather, the issue is that it leads to limited choices in the game, and yes, appearance is part of identifying with a game, it comes way after gameplay and mechanics, but it’s on the plate of enjoyment.
So when you restrict it behind a very expensive paywall that doesn’t even serve the people who make it, the 3D artists, well, you’re just feeding the greedy old men at the top.
I feel like you’ve learned the grammar right, but not how to have empathy and how to recognize game mechanics and how to recognize user experience design choices and especially dark patterns.
You are in the process of derailing.
Maybe it makes you feel powerful and strong, at least once a day. That’s good for you.
But it’s not about the fact itself, or that it hurts anyone,
And many people would still like to buy and many would still like not to buy.
But you would open yourself up to a wider audience and it would benefit the health and happiness of customers.
If you can’t get that together, then congratulations on your grammar, but that’s all you’ve got.

Yeah, 3rd world country. Things are cheap but they kind of have to be when you only make the equivalent of $6500 a year

Blizz should be thinking volume sales. And one way to do that is to have things go on sale or buy one get one free.

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Just like anything else in life, it’s worth what people will pay for it. People are paying for it or the price would come down.

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You dont need optional cosmetics to enjoy a game. Buy it if you like it, dont if you dont. Its simple.

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I have yet to see a $100 skin in this game

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Thats the thing, of course you don’t need it to enjoy the game.
But if you enjoy the game and want some kind of higher identification with your character, well, look could be one of these things you could use.
And in fact, it is not a question weather we need it or not but it is a question of fair pricing and customer friendly services.
I am sure that everyone is willing to pay for work, especially extra work, but it is a difference if you ask almost the price of the base game or one fifth of it.
It just has a very bad taste.
With something that requires no real resources other than people and electricity to make, can basically be sold endlessly and then sold at that price.
It would make no difference to Blizzard if they sold a 25-bug armor 5000 times or if they made a 5-bug armor and sold it 25000 times.

I don’t know why people talk about not having to buy it instead of asking why we have these prices and if it wouldn’t be great if it was affordable and accessible to more people.

Like a cheaper price would be bad for the game or them.
I could also say basically the same “if you don’t understand why cheaper armor prices makes no difference to the quality of the game or the armor and still make more people happy then don’t argue with us”.
Its the same kind of stupid logic.

All we ever say is: “I don’t want to talk about it”, and yet we keep up the discussion.

What is this “bug armor?” I am not familiar with that term.

It is really pretty affordable if this is something that interests you. You have to also consider that Blizzard knows how much people are willing to pay and they price it accordingly. Also, they want the people that pay for it to feel some sense of exclusiveness because everyone will not have it. Customers like exclusivity.

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