How have they still not bothered to scale these caches from Whispers and Bartering to match anything realistic?
This should have been fixed immediately and could have been done at any moment with no effort required.
A Large Cache of Crafting Materials. Imo by T4 you easily burn through full rerolls because by that point you’re trying to min/max gear, corrent? Which is about 6k Obducite per full Masterwork and you earn 4-5k Obducite per 10 wave Hordes, so a real reward for a rare Legendary Crafting Cache would be enough to fully roll one item.
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Legendary Masterworking Cache does not spawn very often from Whispers. It’s far easier to find Wave 10 Hordes compasses and a single run can net you 4-5k Obducite. So why would the more rare Cache being 6k in Tier 4 Difficulty be a bad idea to you? It’s realistic scaling.
Btw you realize currently it’s like 250 Obducite, right?
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Because with that ideia, everybody would start farming obducite as mad dogs and won’t do anything else. So basically it’s another game killer ideia. Get the gear from a easy to get cache, presto.
You happen to know that the game BASICALLY revolves around grinding and farming for gear, right?
IS as it is! They won’t change that, for sure.
Wonder why? Because they should be hard to drop… and not craftable…
They killed the game when they let the jeweler craft mythics. It’s a bad ideia to craft gear that supposedly was to be hell to find! It shouldn’t be handed over in a silver plate…
Wonder why it doesn’t craft uniques or legendaries… Why???
The only metric of difficulty in D4 is time, and by that metric, getting this cache is not easy at all. Seriously.
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We’re talking about a Whisper Cache that may possibly (if you’re lucky) spawn once a month. We’re not talking about something you have the option of Target Farming. It’s a random chance for it to even show up in the Whisper Cache options.
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The ones that think a triple crit masterwork is supposed to not be rare. It’s almost like they made it expensive with low odds for a reason….
You think 6k Obducite is going to get you a triple crit? I farm 30-50k before I even attempt one.
I don’t think anyone understands the average of getting 4-5k Obducite from Hordes and the odds of this Obducite Cache even spawning as a Whisper option.
You’re all talking like you can “choose” to have it show up on every Whisper Reward. It’s extremely low odds that it even shows up, which is why 250 Obducite is an insult.
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It does. And i managed to do that not just with one, but with 4 uniques, believe it or not!
On the other side, i spent almost 25k and don’t managed to have a triple crit on a single unique. Once more, IT ALL depends on luck.
Right now i have so many obducite that i’m thinking of trading them… Uppps… 
And farming obducites is a breeze, so to have that cache for 6K, is a childs play… even if it’s a random cache…
Haha… I actually have gotten a triple crit with 6k… ONCE. Lucky af obviously getting it on the first try. I think the longest it has taken me was something like 8-10 tries… however much obducite that is. Obviously the first 2 attempts don’t cost all that much.
Except this isn’t how it works. How many times do you have to reset and how much does that end up costing in both obducite and gold?
This season, sometimes you simply can’t find a better item and the only option if you want to increase the effectiveness of your gear is to fish for triple crits.
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Not.
16 characters required
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I actually think you’re right. Rewards on higher tiers should scale significantly better than lower tiers to match progression.
I mean you’re 100% lying because it costs 6k Obducite for one 12 rank Masterwork. So it would be believable (though near unbelievably rare) to get 1 triple crit on the first try, but extremely unbelievable to get 4 triple crits all on the first try.
Personally I don’t mind burning 30-50k Obducite chasing triple crits. I usually get them within that amount, though sometimes it takes days worth of farming, up to a week of rerolling. However, you’re clearly not understanding how miniscule 6k is and how it’s not in line with the other rewards, given how infrequently you even get the Cache as an option. Especially when you consider a 10 wave Horde gets you 4-5k, and a NMD gets you around 2k.
250 Obducite for a Cache that hardly ever shows up is a slap in the face.
Exactly, by Tier 4 getting the rare option of an Obducite Cache should feel like "oh cool, now I have a full reroll in the bank towards Masterwork Rerolls instead of having to do that next Horde Run.
Not “250 Obducite? Ok whatever, useless to me”.
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How what works? What I was talking about when I said “Obviously the first 2 attempts don’t cost all that much” was when fishing for triple crits you don’t get what you want on the 4th and 8th (25%) MW. Those aren’t the expensive ones in terms of obducite… it’s the 12th that is pricey. When I said 8-10 times I was talking about resets prior to getting the triple crit that I wanted.
Half my gear on my sorc is triple crit… the rest is 2/1. SB doesn’t even matter because they are broken AF but I got a couple triple crits with the rest being 2/1.
As for gold required… it’s as broken as SB. A couple months ago I had a max affix item drop and I sold it for 50B gold. Haven’t needed gold since.
I see no need in fishing for triple crits across every piece of gear. It’s not a game breaking/making experience either way.
We’ll see what happens in S7. Probably gonna roll a barb.
6k is barely more than you can already earn in Hordes and you can do them anytime through farming Compasses or looking at the Party Listings. The Whisper Cache I’m talking about hardly ever even shows up. It’s not going to make a difference other than the reward actually feeling rewarding. It doesn’t show up frequently enough to actually tip any scales or make Triple Critting easy or trivial.
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Yeah I don’t have a problem with it.
As for farming I prefer NMD’s. At least there is some variety vs grinding Hordes for obducite.
I would be all for NMD farming if the Fear reward at the end was 6 and not 2. The Boss Mats farming is so unbalanced. You get more Hearts than anything else, and you can Target Farm Steel in huge quantities if you specifically do Helltides, but then NMD only give 2? And Blood Maiden only gives 2 Blood? Just make it 6 for each.
In Tier 4 of course.
…people play for a month???
I’d actually agree at 1k for T4.
T1 - 250
T2 - 500
T3 - 750
T4 - 1000
Game changing? No. But that’s the point, because it’s easy open world content. Hitting Infernal Hordes is far more dangerous.
Hordes is easy, and can be done at any time. Cache isn’t hard, but is never guaranteed.
This is not something that is going to show up often for anyone.
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