As a long time WoW classic or retail version, and a player of Diablo I & II (pre-battle dot net) I anxiously dropped the $80 on IV. It pretty much delivered what I wanted in classes, lore, gameplay etc.
Except for interaction with other players. At the very least, assistance is usually required–regardless of how well you solo— with class quests, and many others. I tried interacting with other players but beyond the stray emote… silence. Whisper anyone. Again, silence.
Global chat? None? Trade Chat? Silent. At level 46, out of pure desperation I tried randomly joining a clan. Each and every clan in my search criteria was full. The ones that were not full had 32,768 or more awaiting invites. Out of 20 people I whispered with a Hello and I received one response. And they were a new player.
Am I missing something here? Troll away but don’t tell me to go back to WoW because I’m not dropping more money.
Even when I joined a clan after using the recruitment forum, nobody really said anything. I think I missed most of the messages other players typed too because it’s buried in a different chat channel from the one I’m on or lost underneath a bunch of auto messages about cross play…
There are just literally no built in social features that are functioning properly.
Ugh. In the old days in EverQuest and WoW I took to learning enough Pinyin Chinese to be able to communicate with the gold farmers. “Please respect my camp and I will respect yours.” and “If you keep stealing ore from me, I am more than capable of following you around and stealing yours” etc.
This isn’t WoW. It wasn’t advertised as being anything like WoW.
You are in an instance of I think up to 12 players at a time depending on where in Sanctuary you are. And some people just aren’t that social. A lot of people aren’t.
Also, a lot of people are on console and typing is a pain in the neck on a console unless you have a compatible keyboard hooked up, so we aren’t likely to talk back.
Then how do you get help from other players. I have hammered away at my class quest for many levels. Can’t beat it. And no bragging, but I’m pretty good.
The devs literally said that D4 was going be feel more like an MMO than the previous games. They went as far to say it was going to be much more social and connected.
They straight up lied.
Diablo 3 is a MUCH more social game. Actual chat channels, clan chat channels, communities and their very active chat channels (at least once upon a time). Power leveling communities, rift it forward, vault runs, etc. Besides all that Diablo 3 has an actual matchmaking system. You can join a group nearly instantly for rifts, bounties, or grifts.
I’ll admit. There’s something to be said for “seclusion” in a game. The drama of guilds in WoW drove me away for months at a time. It became a job. I quit in the 00’s. I started playing again with classic before the pandemic, quit afterwards.
But I digress. Best solo class argument or not. There are objectives in this game that cannot be completed solo–class quests even. And I guess if you are new school console player with enough online friends and headphones and in-game chat or Discord. Well, that’s doable.
But for us old guys… my first “console” was an Atari 2600. And my interaction with online D&D players were called “MUD’s” or “MUSES” and were purely text based. I was never a console kid. Too old. And I doubt anyone cares so I’ll leave it there.
It seems lively. I joined it so I’d get alerts for Helltide and World Bosses so haven’t really used it for much else.
@OP
Yeah… the lack of any real ability to communicate with players is kind of a downer. It is honestly probably #2 on my issues list. It is so odd that all the years later the Diablo with best social aspects was probably 2, lol
I’m genuinely curious what you’re hinting at that cannot be done solo o.O
Well, to name one. Spirits of the Lost Grove. The one that provides Druids with aspect boosts. Every class has one, right? Its a long slog up a twisting mountain called Tul Licorice or something. And the end boss is like so many WoW bosses. DPS is key. Because he’s constantly spawning minions.
I cant tell you how many times Ive attempted him, fought my way to king of the hill, only to lose badly. Every level, of course, the level of this boss is increased by a level or two. Which leads me to believe that Bliz is requiring you to have a group to complete it. It’s available at level 15. I started trying at lvl 20 or so. Now I’m 47 and little chance I’ll muster a group even if I had the ability to ask for help from other players, right?
PS: I went the storm & tornado route build as it was recommended by many forums as the best way to level pre-endgame.
I will help you with any quest or dungeon…I have 5 toons in NM difficulty & am on virtually every day &/or evening.
I only work 5 days a month (semi-retired), & I love helping.
All my toons except rogue are tanky as f*** except my rogue & I am min-maxing him to remedy this.
The OP poison (they say they will nerf after season 2) is what gets me usually, making me eye the ole’ health bar a lot.
Whisper me in game for guild invite or just to run.
Darkkenzi#1887.
We have a small guild also & looking for members & WILL help if you ask so long as IRL issues don’t interrupt.
I think there are more console players than PC players. And the console players can’t exactly type back. And emote wheel quite limited to formal communications.
