Id like to play soruc or druid with decent damage . unbeliveable i got 2 uber uniques on sorucs and cant get into pit 90`s . while barb just speed running 101.
i didnt paid 70 euros to see other people having fun while i struggle and not every one likes to play barb or fire bolt whch need blions of gold to respec. and also please add loadout copy would a nice thing to add in game that is behind 100 years compare to 2004 games
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sorcs currently lead the top spots of the pit ladder having cleared t140.
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Not all of us want to exploit perma immune. We should be viable without such cheese.
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well given his complaint is damage and not defense id assume he doesnt realize sorc can do pretty insane damage.
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Perma immune is how you survive while Sorc’s inadequate damage output accumulates; they are directly related. I can’t imagine anyone questioning that the archetypal glass cannon (mages) hasn’t had a cannon in D4 save for bugged S2.
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how is the damage inadequate if they kill the t140 boss?
Not an exploit, its just the gear required to meet the CDR requirements to keep it up nearly permanent requires some very good luck and great rolls on master working. Plus high ranks into flame shield. Just look up the build they tell you how its achievable in game
Want a fix for the skill? Simple just remove the Immune part.
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Because it’s dependent on perma immune to sit and face tank the boss while spamming piddly damage, ignorning everything else. If he had to boss + adds (when applicable) + dodge shadow effects (as intended) he wouldn’t have the damage output to kill the boss in time.
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Try Frozen orb Sorc or Wind Shear druid,
Both are a lot of fun and A tier. Definitely viable if you want to have fun and try something else.
If it is still avail in S5 I will agree it is intended as a deep investment option and not an exploit. As it stands, they tried to neuter it between PTR and S4 and knowing Blizz-math, they more likely simply failed the math vs. left it as an option.
i dont think you understand how much damage the shatter passive is doing. and the pit boss sorcs downed has nearly a trillion hp. wrap your head around that for a bit
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well, the OP is going about how sorcs would need some love. First of all, the perma immune builds arent an exploit. Its using everything thats in the game right now. CDR, increased flame shield duration. Thats hardly an exploit.
then its also clear that they are capable of doing insane damage. So yea - i dont see why they would need a buff right now.
if - you - dont want to play certain builds, thats on you. “Play your way” can have disadvantages as well. Frozen orb Sorcs are at t115. if you prefer that build, youll lose some damage, but might gain some enjoyment as you like the build.
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If they leave everything as is right now and go into S5 it will still very much be an issue. That likely won’t happen, they will make changes to it. Which here is the one irony of this skill.
In the PTR patch notes they removed the Flame Shield Enchantment to automatically activates upon taking fatal damage. ( This was a change specifically aimed at HARDCORE players )
Here is their quote on change
" Developer’s Note: We’ve received feedback from players that “Cheat Death” mechanics are not desired. The Flame Shield enchantment has been changed to not react to fatal damage, but instead react to taking 100% of your health within a 30 second window."
So if they deem the feedback from players that a “cheat death” mechanic is not desired. Why would they leave the in the part about being IMMUNE you are still “cheating death” for that duration.
Thus here we are players found a way through CDR thanks to the GA’s and great rolling of master working to the new stats provided to conjurations which ice blades will reduce cool downs faster the more they attack and wham.
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sorc is number one on leaderboard ladder atm
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yea i assume they will balance that in s5 too. just saying that its not an exploit. ^^
Nope, totally tracking on that interaction with (greater) fireball. Assume that’s yet another Sorc skill bug… and one this clear was entirely dependent on (no adds, no bug, no 140 clear).
Well, another 3 weeks is the mid point of the season and they said they will have mid season patches. I would expect to see a campfire or at least some patch notes in a couple weeks because they said they want to give us at least one week notice on patch notes. Some builds could use some help so hopefully they give it.
Barb Bash cleave is based on bug on tempering, the bleed barb exploit by use Rogue to apply the critical strike damage tempering as only Rogue has this manual. Heart Seeker rogue is based on a double dipping victimized bug passive. Sorcerer is the only class no exploit, only need a good roll gear. It is harder to play a class when you don’t have access to cheat code and exploits. Same with other game.
This just speculation unless you have data show that the Greater firewall was not doing the intended 10% damage from existing current burning damage. You can just test it yourself with dummy, instead of spreading rumours.
You don’t even know how shatter work, just watch the rob and mekuna PIT 150 which the barb play a support role by pull in all mobs so the sorcerer will do the main damage with shatter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXjF6Rx5NUc
Sorry , what ?
Source please ?