Mystix specifically asked me what I thought about the d3 numbers they found on that site. So I said what I thought about them.
I never said d2 doesn’t have players still, I play d2 as well. I have d2r too.
They withhold information because to competitors, it’s market research. So they’ll celebrate some launch thresholds and they’ll include it in their quarterly earnings revenue as they’re a publicly traded company.
I agree with the rest of what you said here about if a blue were to confirm, all the youtubers and clickbait news sites would rush to publish articles about it.
But I don’t think it would be unexpected. Most games are like this. A lot of people are already finished with Zelda Tears of the Kingdom. A lot of people have even finished Final Fantasy XVI.
I honestly planned to be done right after the campaign, so I’d be ready for season 1. But I am still playing (and as a sorc), just learning the game more for when season 1 begins, and getting an eternal char I can play if I need a break from my seasonal char once the season begins.
You have made valid points, I will agree to disagree. I don’t 100% trust any source of reviews, but good games do get good reviews. Bad games get 5.1/10 ratings. Most (please, not all) of the negative reviews have well written commentary on the game. Someone would have to go through a lot of trouble to slam the game that much. Conversely, somebody could make fictitious accounts and submit several positive reviews. See how that logic is easily reversed?
Sure - Blizzard was in decline for years at that point. The masterminds behind their original games left and started their own projects. In 2008, the company was bought by Activision. It was their last saving grace.
Mate, if it is a troll thread, then why do you bother opening it and engaging in discussion which results in bumping the thread? Truthfully, I know the discussion is more engaging than playing the game - and we’d like to fix that. Sometimes I like to play ‘devils advocate’ and ask questions that might spark a debate - I’ve been called a hater (or worse), and other times called a bootlicking shill (truthfully, I do own ATVI stock). I still call BS when I see it. Believe me though, I want to see this game improved. They released a minimum viable product knowing that it is garbage right now. IDK why that must be debated so much. It’d be nice if we can focus on what needs to be done to fix it.
Its not that I literally disagree with everyone here, some more than others who just post obvious troll bait but, I’m like with everyone else here - I want the game to succeed, to be something that can surpass the previous games but I’m highly dubious due to the general lack of content all across the board, its like I have many internal warning sirens being triggered.
The reason why these warning feels are being triggered is because I’ve personally seen alot of games over the years which had big aspirations and then entirely fail or never live up to those expectations, or worse decide that it can’t live up to any of the expectations and then decide to change the games direction to retain the hardcore playerbase at the expense of everyone else, that would be disasterous for Diablo 4s live service potential.
In many of my previous posts over the months, I’ve said that Diablo 4’s foundation is strong, it just needs more of everything and time is the enemy here, people have short attention spans and I feel that everyone hitting 100 in basically no time is a problem, the grind is all wrong and thats why people started to complain, its missing several key vital points of a diablo franchise game.
If you can guarantee it, then you have factual, statistical evidence proving as such. Until someone provides me with that statistic (which is no one), any claims are moot and will continue to be moot.
Yeah, I mean, make no mistake, my claims of Metacritic being inaccurate goes both ways. But since we’re on the subject of a game getting negative reviews, I am simply continuing off of that to point out that review bombing is pretty commonplace on Metacritic, so much so that Metacritic itself had to get involved and implement a system that prohibited people from review bombing a game the day of release. I personally don’t think it did much of anything, but the point isn’t whether or not it was effective; rather, it’s to emphasize how much of a cesspool that website is.
Just because it’s a troll thread doesn’t mean there aren’t people in here who aren’t trolling. I haven’t engaged with OP beyond my first two posts and I don’t intend to engage with them anymore. They’re a troll who keeps updating the title of their thread with random numbers to keep the thread alive and push the illusion that they have some source they’re pulling from. It’s ridiculous that the post has been hidden three times and subsequently restored each time. If there’s one bad thing I can say about Blizzard, it’s their inability to actually see a troll post when one appears and take action when necessary.
Like, let’s be honest with each other: No game loses 80% of its playerbase a month after release unless it’s one of two things: A single player game that people have completed and moved on from, or a multiplayer game with the quality of No Man’s Sky in 2016 or Fallout 76.
Diablo IV has probably lost some of its playerbase because that’s the nature of live-service games, but if anyone thinks that the game is the same level of bad as Fallout 76 or No Man’s Sky to warrant losing 80% of its playerbase, they are living in a delusion.
Ive asked multiple times. OP is just using made up numbers and not responding to anyone questioning his data source. Im also sorry but a google analytic is not connected into the back end of the blizzard servers.
Bad data is bad data.
No data is just made up numbers.
You have multiple sources including a certain RMT site, you have trackers which you can google yourself, and you twitch metrics which have shown a decline and you have in-game metrics such as personal observation, I’ve seen a lot less people - our clan which hit 150 members fast now struggles to get maybe 10 to 15 players playing, I started seeing less and less people at legion events, even did them solo which never used to happen at all.
I’m saying that the OP is probably being a bit sensational with the data, but probably isn’t that far off the mark, we’ll just never know for sure - plus you do have the fact that data can be manipulated or important data not available to the public etc, the fact remains that a significant portion of players have quit the game, if you dispute that fact then is no point arguing anymore.
The issue isn’t celebrating those that quit, its about keeping the remaining playerbase stable and if possible, growing and the majority here bashing the OP don’t seem to have any valuable answers to that, the more people playing the better, imagine a game where you want to do a world boss and nobody shows up? That is the reality you are facing.
You never established any fact then you followed that up it with a no true scotsman fallacy. I guess you never studied statistics or calculus past the 10th grade?
post like these are just trying to get people to “get back in the heard you sheep” some one stopped doing the new “hype”, quick everyone we don’t want to be the last one to stop playing the game !! LOL
this is also a great means of subterfuge or corporate espionage nowadays… this post is all about marketing, hey come back to the old game the new hype is dead now. so i can sell you more stuff in the “insert battle pass or cosmetic here”… what company do you do PR for ?
Seeing less players in-game isn’t a fact, then I guess nothing will please people. The truth is, no matter what anybody posts here - its taken with pinch of salt unless the text is in blue.
Rather than disputing the statistics, which, by the way, you can make statistics say anything you want them to say (that is the entire point of statistics) why not instead contemplate brainstorm and suggest improvements as the request also requests?
“Why not come up with a solution for a problem that doesn’t exist! I mean, just look at the made up statistics showing the problem does exist. Lets get to work guys!”
Yet here you are affirming that the problem does exist as you’re presently logged onto the forums and not having the endless fun that everyone is enjoying playing.
Tell me then what you find enjoyable about the game at least?
Causation comes from lack of end game content, seasons when players didn’t research what that entailed, lack of build diversity to keep min/maxxers happy, race to 100 was meaningless due to major exploits, for some people that race is everything.
Many of the people who quit literally hit 100 and have nothing else left to do, PvP is so horrbly implemented that it might as well not exist, enough causes for people leaving the game, I have a lot more, this is why main causes for the player drop off, saying everything is fine when it clearly isn’t, is the wrong message to be sending here - talking about how to fix the problems in a meaningful and rational way is the message that people should be talking about instead of pointless apple and orange discussions and trying to nitpick peoples posts.