As I already stated, half the season gone and not one
You are not supposed to get one. You are not guaranteed one. You will be lucky if you do.
That is the point.
? Then why is the mechanic in the game? When did the devs say your not supposed to max your equipment in an arpg?
Thatās a choice they make it isnāt a necessity at all. I do get what you mean. LE has both and I can say having both maxed I prefer MG so that sought after affixes can be gotten vs. just having more of the same when I really want to min/max.
I donāt really think trade is even warranted, and Iāve never had a 3 GA item useful for me drop. I wholeheartedly agree the playerbase has this āI HAVE to have this to beat contentā mentality and they are very much wrong.
It just seems like an odd take to have-Youād be no more forced to interact with the ah than the people spending billions to reroll masterworking for stats that arenāt going to make or break you. Given Blizzās track record on saying one thing and doing another, I hardly bite the ājustificationā for it but I digress.
Iād happily trade, primarily to the benefit of others if the system was in game. I canāt be bothered to go to yet another 3rd party site to participate in an activity that very much exists partially already in game.
Because that is the entire game. You have a chance to get cool stuff. A chance.
Its not complicated.
Then why is the reset mechanic in the game if itās supposed to be random and not targeted?
It is random. How are you not understanding this?
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There is this button you can push to reset it and target something for your build, had to simplify it for you I guess
You get many CHANCES, through drops and MW resets. That its the game. It is a slot machine. And like all modern slot machines there are all sorts of mechnisms to keep you engaged.
If you EXPECT to win on a slot machine then you have serious problems.
If you dont want to play a slot machine then play a differetn game.
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So they made a way to target farm everything else in the game including this but thatās not the case?
OK lets not derail the discussion
the main problem is the reset
and the power gain from MW and tempering
MW should be a way to see actual power
1-4 should be 1m to reset or lock the item
5-8 should be 3m to reset back to lock or full reset and should be lock if you chose
9-12 should be the end game goal of actually maxing out the full potential of the item and cost 5m to full reset or back to lock point
this is a season only last 1-2 months and PTR should be the last month
this would make you feel like your actually progressing a 2-3 GA item a 1GA item should be your base of the build but a 2-3 GA item should be your end game goal to actually make your character stronger
The entire masterwork and tempering system is crap as it is.
No, its 200+ whispers lol
Target farming doesnāt gaurantee anything.
Even the change to being able to BUY uber uniques was offset for an even less probable thing to chase; perfect master worked items.
When they make that more probable it will be followed by something that is less probable to chase.
The chase is the game. The chances are many. Nothing is gauranteed.
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RMT is not allowed and should be a ban
a AH with a Bound win buy should be the only option
no buying gold like in D3
and i know people will still RMT but at less the people that dont want to do 3rd party trading will at less have a way to get some gold without actually doing RMT
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To put the probabilities in more perspective.
If MW has equal probability for all affix then The probability for a 12/12 MW to land all three 25% bonuses on a specific affix is:
- 1 / 64 for 4 affix unique
- 1 / 125 for a 5 affix legendary
Not bad odds at all.
This doesnāt take into account resetting on the 4 or 8 MW when you donāt get the desired affix.
So how much does it cost to do that many 12/12 MW at 5M resetting on 12.
- 320M for a 4 affix unique
- 625M for a 5 affix legendary
Thats it. But its still random and its still a probability. Its not gauranteed ever. You could spend 500 Trillion gold and still not ever land it. Its supposed to be luck and the odds arenāt even bad.
Regular players, will get those amounts easily during a season without every trading or RMT.
e.g. (Looking at D4 armory) In S2 I played a rogue to 100, no trading (could only trade yellow anyway) and no RMT my rogue got 560M in about 100 hours of game play.
My 100 necro from S3 only played about 70 hours and got 400M. I would argue gold is even more abundant now.
The only way this is a problem is if you want the results to be gauranteed or very easy to get āperfectā gear.
I do not. I donāt think the MW reset cost are low or high. I actually think they are just about right.
P.S. The above odds are for getting all three 25% bonuses on a specific affix. But if you wanted all three 25% bonuses to hit on ANY single affix the odds are:
- 1/ 16 for 4 affix unuiqe (very likely to occur within spending 80M)
- 1/ 25 for 5 affix legendary (very likely to occur within spending 125M)
Pretty dang good and not very expensive for a season.
You slipped a decimal. Itās about 160 whispers. Iād say Iām averaging 6M per turn-in and thatās about what wudijo saw too. He said he could optimize to get maybe 50-60M gold per hour on whispers. Selling stuff nets a little more, maybe another million per whisper, assuming you donāt need the mats.
20 billion is more like 3,200 whispers, which is extreme inflation. Thatās 48 hours of whispers. With the big gold sinks it suggests they screwed up and thereās another duping bug. Maybe gold, maybe GA items.
Honestly I think the whole masterwork resetting thing was dumb. Forging and MW should be cheap and GAās a bit more common so that it doesnāt feel like a catastrophe when you brick or fail some masterworks. If weāre going to gamble, which everyone ignores that we do anyway target farming and running pit for GAs, why not make it so that we get lots of chances for not too many resources?
Iām firmly against trading and an AH in an ARPG is a catastrophe. Just go the D3 route, only share items in parties, and one summing mat per person. It largely shuts down the RMT. Most of what goes on in D3 is early season leveling carries.
I donāt even know there was a reset.
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