It is kind of obvious that Bolas triggers it. But for 140+ no bolas zdh, it is not clear that which skills triggers Strongarm Bracers knockback
Does anybody knows if any of the below skills triggers it ?
Entangling Shot - Chain Gang
Multishot - Windchill
Sentry - Guardian Turret
Marked for Death - Valley of Death
Custom Engineering
Awareness
Thrill of the hunt
Numbing Traps
Entangling shot could be but it doesn’t make the monster “pull” “move” or “jump” as the classical strongarm triggers
I have seen good zdh wearing or cubing strongarm. I just need to understand if it is actually used
None of the skills you listed trigger Strongarms.
Skill wise Vault Rattling Roll rune, Impale Impact rune and MS Supperssion Fire rune can work. You can also roll 5.1% knockback on hit on your bracers or weapon secondary affix. Windforce works too if you equip it.
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thanks. no strongarm necessary for this build. Wraps of clarity it is
actually there is a specific game play for 150 meta whereby zdh can trigger Strongarms with freezing bola (discord needed).
If trashkiller is poison scythe, bola exactly at 1/2 poison (since TK will dislocate at start of poison). This will not only proc zdh’s strongarms, it also ensures trashkiller’s krysbins is activated for the entire duration of his poison cycle which is 300% extra damage.
We dont see it used often because the execution requires precision.
As for Thorns bomb sader as trashkiller, only use bola after the sader presses reflective skin + barrels of spike. You will want him to get hit during lightning cycle to get as many stacks of Invoker 2 bonus. Spamming bola will prevent mobs from hitting the sader and that denies him from getting 10 stacks or close to 10 stacks.
Marked for death will be dropped for bolas. Reason is mark for death offers very little damage buff compared the ability to pixel + proc 30% strongarms. In the absence of zbarb coming back to ground stomp, zdh can actually pixel.
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If there is a zBarb in the party (assuming 4 man), SA bracers aren’t needed for zDH anyway, no need to try all that. Also @Doraemon, you left out GoD DH as TK. It won’t be the most efficient, but can be done quite often. I’ve used mine in non-season (4k gons) as TK in 150s with very little fishing involved for 3 mans and 4 mans :).
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Repeating what the other said. Don’t bother with Strongarms in GR push using the GoD 4pc zDH builds, unless you are the sole teammate responsible for grouping trash.
Strongarms is not significant after all of the zDps buffs, and you will likely lose time from over CCing or misplacing a pull.
Do not use Ess of Johan, it too will mess up pulls.
I have watched GoD4 zDHes actually reduce damage by leaving bolas going, thinking they can tighten dispersed trash, meanwhile they further loosened the pack and redistributed the mobs inferiorly. Don’t be that player.
That said, if you absolutely must use Bolas, stop Strafing, cast your Bolas, cast your Entangling shot again, then resume Strafe. Don’t use cold Bolas rune, it is clumsy.
As I mentioned at the begining zdh build is “No bola” 150s. this build is played in 4 meta with zbarb, Necro or WD as trash killers, crusader and this zdh. 3 GOD 2 CRIMSON + Ring of royal Grandeur. Some top zdh with this build cube strongarm. I and a couple of guys cube wraps of clarity instead. To be able to argue that strongarm is wrong, I wanted to make sure. I also listed used skills for this build. Same skills on all zdh with this build. Thanks
i think you are wrong. Pixel = area damage. The timing to pixel is very precise with bolas. And you must see the situation to bola. If zbarb is around, you can skip the bola. If zbarb is pulling stuff and you know the Trashkiller’s damage rotation is up, you can bola. Like i said. previously for necro TK, its exactly at 1/2 poison) this will give him 100% krysbins throughout his poison.
This execution is almost not visible by legit humans. Dont ask me who can see TK’s CoE. Its illegal here.
I explained the setup in details. Bolas are not in the skills of this build
For instance in non seasonal leaderboards 150 at 5:04 joyrodil wears strongarm. 150 at 5:45 Pandora cubes wraps of clarity with same skills. Nems in cube or on them as secondary.
From what I conlude from these posts number one zdh jorodil wearing a piece which is completely useless. That is very unusual
Am I missing something like a skill on him that triggers strongarm ?
pretty sure ive played with every person on leaderboard from this patch and not once has this even been mentioned
Thats because its too difficult to pull it off consistently without sabotaging the zbarb’s stomps and pulls.
What I’ve used that works well for Sentry zdh (no bola) is to roll knockback on your bracers secondary to proc SA. It’s only 5.1%, but that’s the best option from what I can tell.
Ive also seen a zdh just switch out his bow to windforce that had about 50% knockback chance. Not sure how his resource management went, but seems like a potential option.
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That’s what I missed. The ones that uses Strongarm also used % knockback on their bracers. I can’t tell how effective that is but at least it makes sense. Thank you