Your Patch Expectations

Was really expecting more from tals changes but i guess we shall see in final notes.

Oh yesss just :poop:on Garg swarm. Get… Ehh… What ever.

so when are these changes going live? Did a restart its the same values

This is your first PTR or what? On top of the page in read text.

These are just the notes tho, the PTR itself has not been updated yet, thus no changes are currently present for testing…yet.

It needs some time to start updateing, yes.

" Update on July 26: PTR 2.7.4 has been updated."

Give it some time. Go take a poop or something.

The patch is up.

Not too big though, its working again.

Good, they fixed the angelic crucible to santified items.

I feel like majority are expecting the spec/build they enjoy playing to farm 150 grifts and key/bounty farm under 2 minutes…

You can tell that the d3 devs are legit prepping us for D4. Going back in touch with class fantasy and also to fill a certain roll within a party while not being utter crap for solo play. Barb WW with the new sanc power of pulling mobs in and carrying those mobs is phenomenal in group play (more useful than solo), mix that with a class that’s great in ST (condemn sader is chunking guardians insanely efficiently), and another in AOE (blood nova ftw), you got yourself a nice group. I feel like that’s how D4 will be.

Aside from monk (as I haven’t touched in on the ptr), every class has an amazing angelic power and it makes the game really enjoyable. Each has a place and to be honest they are somewhat situational / have purpose. For example, the whole rathma army of the dead power is laughable now, sure it was broken when it first came out but perhaps find a middle ground instead of it now being a gimmick and laughable but the siphon blood for free nova is incredible.

WD is quite fun with the new powers, it’s lacking the damage though. However, the fun factor is there. They did just change the powers a bit, so I will have to see if it is still fun as I plan on having a WD alt over a sader.

Builds truly are dependent on you actually getting the angelic powers to drop AND rolling the ones you actually NEED. I am around 900 para and have only ever seen 3 drop. I know it doesn’t mean much as para xp is doubled and I already have full ancients / a few primals WITH the angelic power applied already, meaning clearing grifts is significantly easier and all but purely looking at angelic power drops in that amount of time invested is still worrisome. Maybe the items flatout rolling primal balances it out.

I am sorry but what world do you live in that condemn crusader does awesome Single Target damage? Am I in the twilight zone? Or is their some item or skill or ninja buff that made condemn do super amounts of damage to guardians? Do you mean the pre nerf angels that scaled with GR instead of gear or bonuses that just got nerfed into the ground? Genuinely curious.

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IMO, if you’re going to make a change to a permanent item then it has to have value outside that season.

After season ends just move the 10 missiles to mirror ball.

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WW Pull with the Barb.
Clusteray with the DH.
-maybe- the Pirahna pull on Haunted mobs.

Strafe sanctified power needs a buff so it can be used with more than just one set.

Don’t know, but anything decent or exploited will definitely get a nerf attack.

I know I am in the minority when I say this, but Waste set needs that WW pull added to it and take away those useless tinynados.

It’s not as good as it sounds, we need a 1H er for any of the Meteor powers for it to really shine. Otherwise you’re competing with Fazulas/Swami to fit TR2 in, losing that ~400% damage boost. Unless I’m going about this the wrong way, show us the way lol.

EDIT: Ah yes I am missing something…Deathwish! Yeah noooo, this is why they just need to go buff TR6 screw that!

My expectations were they make a mess of things…oh look they did exactly that…some of the decisions like the Tal Rasha is just baffling. It’s like the devs don’t know what they are doing. There are several seasonal poers for each class that are just so poor in damage that literally no-one will use AND they never got a buff or rework.

I was more thinking DMO6Tal2 Meteor Shower (or generator meteors) vs. Tal6 Meteor Shower (or generator meteors). I think that’s what the majority of people want to play.

Tal6 Archon Meteor will be stronger than DMO6Tal2 Meteors, you’re definitely right.

But I think most of the playerbase wants a non-Archon non-Deathwish Meteor build.

And on that front, I think DMO is actually a bit stronger. Depending on how you build it, anyway. For the setups I was thinking of, it’s basically Tal’s 6p bonus + Crimson + Aughild’s vs. DMO 6p bonus + Squirt’s. DMO wins that damage equation.

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I am excited for s27, both WW and Strafe powers looks like they will be rather good, my 2 favorite builds :beers: