Would you pay a monthy subscription for D4 if it had monthly content patches?

I’m talking $15 a month for consistent patches adding new Rift areas, new legendaries, new classes and levels, holiday themes, cool cosmetics, monthly secrets like the cow pet, ect?

Or do you prefer the d2, d3 style of buy once, pay for expansions, slow content, nothing guaranteed.

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That would be my preference. I can even settle for mtx as long as it’s mostly cosmetics with little to no p2w aspects.

Personally, I don’t care much for games with subscription fees. If the game was made well with ideal character building and offers multiple activities that are viable to game progress, then that’s mostly all I’ll need. A subscription fee wouldn’t guarantee that and as such is unnecessary in my eyes.

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There would need to be serious amounts of content. On the level of WOW. I do not think there is any plans to make D4 anywhere near that size. A cosmetics/pet/mount only (zero PTW) shop is the best way the pay for continuous content.

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:thinking: nope :grimacing:

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Nope. Not going to buy it either.

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Hell will sooner freeze then I’ll ever pay a monthy subscription to play any game…

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I would prefere a 60-80$ price for a Legendary Edition with extra cosmetics, then about 5$ monthly for non-challenge, non-competition, non-HC, non-PvP, non-LB polish, QoL, aRPG expansions.

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That is $180 a year, so I would need 3 games worth of content a year for it to be worth it for me.

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Well, i play WoW and we do get that much content a year, and i would literally go crazy if it were Diablo getting that much content. There is the problem of bad content though, tainting a good game.

im not arguing for one side or the other, just interested in the demographics of the community and maybe we can relay this to blizzard before they put something down that the community doesnt want.

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Yeah I’d pay for a sub, if the content was good enough to justify it

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I seriously doubt they would be able to pump out that kind of content on a monthly basis. Every few months or several times a year perhaps but even that is not worth $15 a month.

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No, I wouldn’t pay.

I don’t believe in blindly throwing money at something hoping to get something in return. That’s what subscription is. You pay for something that has zero guarantees to give something back.

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that is also true for buying the game (D3 was flamed for awhile after launch).

expansions are subscriptions.
example: ros expansion, necro pack.

We paid for more content.

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No. I’d rather pay for story/world expansion, not fluff content that I’d rather grind for.

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Expansions and dlcs aren’t subscriptions as you only need to purchase them once and they’re yours with no further payment; while with subscriptions you have to constantly pay a fee every month (or year depending on the model) to have access to the feature.

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No way (20 characters)

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I would pay for meaningfull expansions, but not a monthly fee.

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This. I don’t think i will buy D4 either, and i have been playing since the first. I have no confidence in how Blizzard manage their games anymore. And i love pet builds, while Blizzard loathes pet builds and should really just remove them from their games completely. D4 has the druid, a class i wanted as a DLC in D3 (i also love playing Druid in DnD style games), and IIRC they said he would get summons. Well, seeing how summons work in D3, i don’t even want to play D4 druid, i don’t care.

As for the subscription to pay for content, i think many fanboys and covert Blizzard employees pretending to be simple users are very misleading. D3 sold a bazzilion of copies worldwide. And the original content was very low for the game, a few maps/tilesets, a few classes with spell effects and a few enemies and some repetitive music. Blizzard always overstates the production cost of their games, it is not that high. If CDPR managed to create the Witcher 3 under a 75million dollar budget, then Blizzard has no excuse. Compare the production quality of Witcher 3 with the vanilla Diablo 3. Be honest. Do you really think vanilla D3 offered higher quality assets and was more expensive to make? Yet D3 sold more copies…

Yes, technically Blizzard does not “owe” us any post-release content, but the reason they sold 30 million copies wasn’t because vanilla D3 was such a stellar game that people just had to own it. It was because of the implied promise of the Blizzard brand that the game would be supported for a long time and fix any issues, and balanced. And people mostly bought D3 because of D2… So even though they don’t owe us to fix the game legally, they do us morally, as if it was any other company and any other franchise, the sales would have been much lower…

Blizzard does not need monthly money to offer a couple of new items per season or balance changes. And if people misleadingly say “well the game makes no more money they can’t justify paying for staff now”, they are incorrect, because the game made many, many times more money than its production cost in 2012-2014-2017, so those staff have been pre-paid, paid in advance. And if you can’t look at it this way, then look at it like this:

The cost to maintain and balance D3 could be considered part of the marketing budget of D4. Because most people sure as hell won’t buy D4 seeing how D3 has been treated…

A monthly subscription of 15$, means that every 4 months (roughly a season) we will have paid for a full 60$ AAA release in subscription fees. So they need to be offering us a full AAA game amount of new content every season to justify this.

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No. I’ve already hit subscription-itis. It’s a cancer that is rapidly spreading to every industry and I’m at the point where I just do without for things where a subscription isn’t even close to being justified. Like paid online when I almost never play in groups. Even an Xbox All Access Ultimate isn’t a value proposition to me since I can’t possibly play all of those games (or even a fraction of them) in any reasonable amount of time, making me feel like my money is being wasted.

I tolerate it for World of Warcraft because servers need to be maintained and there is value for me even as a primarily solo player, but for a game like Diablo? No. It’s forced online, so I’m already stuck without an offline mode for when things get dicey with the servers. I’m not paying extra when I have no choice in my venue in which to play.

If they went the PoE route where MTX pays for the servers and the game is free, I’d consider getting some MTX, but my wallet has limits, so if they went that route they’d be relying on whales just like GGG does. That died down pretty quick with Heroes of the Storm and Hearthstone, especially in the pay to win environment of having to pay for heroes.

Amazon Prime is a subscription.
1Password wants a subscription (but thankfully still allows standalone licenses for now).
Internet is a monthly payment.
Our Netflix DVD/BD plan is a subscription.
World of Warcraft is a subscription.

Combine that with utilities and the monthly payments to keep track of becomes just nuts. Enough already.

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