Wizard LoD Hydra Vs New set build

I wish to understand more about this hydra build I tried the wizard forum but it seems that LoD seems better… I am from a Crusader or DH Class background seriously I HAVE NEVER EVER played wizard class. Call me lazy but I think asking consoles players who knows wizard hydra build is faster than me researching for these couples of days :stuck_out_tongue:

(A bit boring but anyway this is how I intend to start)
I can start a Dh or Cru but I think in less than 3 or 5days I should be able to complete the season journey… So I am thinking about Wizard class I understand Hydra is pretty new build or not so if anyones knows about it please kindly share it… So I play Cru/Dh till I can get kadala drops easily than lvl25 Gem of ease… make a wizard… I dun really intend to play meta never had since I always play the builds I like… but hey I never even equip the new crimson set so might as well give it a try & played AoV yet… I think I only play D3 for 2 weeks at most because not really interested to play Nioh2 & I did not expect I finish genesis so early so kind of boring atm… waiting for OPPW4 & many games next month.

Hydra (I know it is stupid) seems to ME is like M6 sentries so I feel comfortable playing that build

  1. btw everything is still textbook right for hydra?? cube the dmg weapon, upgrade weapon etc
  2. It is way better than the new set right meaning better to be LoD hydra
  3. Can it do a Gr100 solo without Augments less than P800?
  4. never understand how yellow gems works so if I want better resistance always diamonds… but if I want dmg/weaker resistance yellow gems on pants/armor right?
  5. Any veterans knows if IAS breakpoints is important meaning I need 7 IAS on how many items? (surprising I know the number for old M6 but that is not needed with the current M6)

anyway thanks in advance for answering/reading or helping good luck all in S20

1- it may be the same- manald heal would be viable for T16, but probably not for high-end GR’s
2- The new set experienced all sorts of issues in the PTR, such as instant death from say Ghosts, as they channel dmg and each tick would make you lose all your hydra heads. You would lose Hydra heads even with a shielding pylon as the set stipulated hits, not dmg. There was another issue with double-dipping dmg using arcane torrent-static discharge, so it got way inflated results.
3. If they fix the issues, yes it will be.
4. Wizards are INT based, so they naturally build All-Res. You want Topaz slotted into your gear, or if you feel too squishy then slot Rubies or Emeralds for more Armor.
5. Breakpoints are kind of critical if you are using Manald Heal for various reasons you can find in the wizard forum - pig sticker was one of the go-to weapons for IAS, and then you wanted one more IAS roll on another piece of gear.
LoD Hydra looks better as an option.

D3 planner I believe has listed breakpoints. I wouldn’t bother with manald. Its a complete waste. With Set, use Cold Rune, LoD - Mammoth. The build is still pretty easy to do a GR100 sub 800 para (I’d say 600+) Paragon really wont matter if you get some items with GG rolls. I’m surprised I haven’t seen anyone except for LexandCes talk about LoD reverse archon hydra. It will have a better clear than the other variants I’ve seen.

For rings I thought the 80% DR is a must equip…

next if playing sets you need RoRG, CoE if you are taking 2 min above with RG, Torment always Avarice ring… I might be wrong but isn’t unity or Zodiac ring way better than manald?

yup what I thought about manald tks for the feedback… I go find the info on reverse archon hydra yup I am looking/reading at the fire hydra too

Karini is a must.

CoE/Karini are rings for pushing

In cube, you can use Aether Walker/In-geom for speeds. For T16, I’d use Avarice and SoJ. Karini isn’t doing anything (Goldwrap + Gold) and CoE isn’t needed. RCR management is where you may have an issue, but you shouldn’t be channeling at all on a T16 build.

tks I should be using dh or cru for T16/keys/bounties I just play GR for kadala till I can get socer items/stuff. I am very comfortable with DH solo completing whatever season journal or bounties/key might want to give AoV cru a shot since I never play so for rifts I am pretty in good shape

than spend the rest of my remaining time playing socer in GR we should be wearing the 50+ RCR belt correct? I assume we just spam channel till we move on to a better position for ourselves or hydra

btw a noob question why players suggest black hole as a free skill I was thinking twister because of CC

It might be black hole on pc since twisters bounce off walls on console. Not sure, I only played on console and I heard wizards were broken (op) with twisters since they stack and bounce.

Teresa - I rolled up a hydra set (not LOD) a few days ago and tested it - reasonably tough, I did a 110 with 40 seconds to spare @ p2700 with 3 ancients, 1 primal and the rest non-ancient. No augments. And I suck at Wizards lol (DH player here!).

The set build is a lot of fun. Bluddshed thinks the LOD build will be a bit more powerful than the set build, but I’m not so sure. I haven’t tried the LOD variant, so can’t compare myself.

I went with the standard build from icy veins for hydra typhoon set btw. Nothing fancy.

halo of karini is vital for DR, don’t skimp. Lay down your hydras, channel your arcane torrent and replenish hydras as they disappear. Teleport as required and also kite a fair bit. Black hole for grouping mobs.

I’d expect that I could probably do a GR 120 with this with all augments, perhaps higher if I practice and get good at the build. For me, it’s about the same potential as s6 impale, although I can do a GR120 with around p1200 (luck/fishing), so significantly less paragon for impale vs hydra.

I’m gonna go test out the new WD set and see how that goes, Bluddshed puts in in S tier…

edit: I used the same build/gear/skills for both GR pushing and T16 - I personally found no real differences, although you could probably tune the build for T16 to get a speed variant, dropping DPS but getting speed bonuses in its place.

on console, you could probably use both…I didn’t test the build with twister, but could test it, it might have a GR more DPS cos of twister doing more DPS than black hole. Most builds work on the belief that you’re playing on PC, and twister was nerfed on PC 3 or 4 seasons ago if memory serves me…obviously that nerf didn’t affect consoles, so you might get better mileage out of twister…

ya I was thinking of replacing black hole for twister as I mention just for CC purpose but since our main dmg comes from hydra

yup I was thinking about this too playing like M6 plant sentries, get into good position than spam our clusters now it is plant hydras, get into good position then channel… since wiz can get a free skill spamming I though of twister doing CC mostly so hydras can do their dmg all in one place since we dun need to kite mobs we see how it goes…

not playing at the moment for D3 want to wait for season then start… hopefully it be fun for the 2 weeks :slight_smile:

that wizard ring is obvious too good to pass imagine M6 with Zoey belt plus cloak CUBE(which we lose so many DPS if any1 does this)… 2 items use & still no where near one wiz ring & M6 toughness is that it is… be it LOD or set wiz with ring still can afford additional DR…