Will they ever combine all the seasons?

Something like 4th Cube + Free Cube + Altar of Rites + Ethereals + Soul Shards + Sancts + Free LoD + Free RoGR?

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I’d finally clear a GR150!

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Using only Krelms set!

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150 is a non issue now a days with the altar and I am a noob player.

Season 28 and now this season. If you want a 150 it is pi$$ easy now a days provided you use an S tier build and fish keys until you get an open map.

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The game is in maintenance mode so no, they probably won’t. The game isn’t getting any more updates.

at mega paragon yes. I don’t typically farm GRs endlessly for paragon. I do a push at my highest clear on whatever map is provided (and mobs/pylons too). I don’t fish for 1000s of keys. That’s RNG and NOT skill. MEGA paragon is also not skill. Time ≠ skill.

If you play ā€œeasyā€ classes/builds and like fishing, , yes, otherwise… No

With combined themes one could do 150 almost the same way as doing T16 / GR100-130 speeds now. So it wouldn’t make any sense to anyone who actually wants to fight something and not just run (or use under-performing builds).

This season you don’t need any mega paragons (depends of course it you consider 2k mega or not). You just need to pick one of the better S tier builds, get quite ok gear for it and play it medium amount to learn it unless you are already skilled with it (and if you have no skills at all, there are Youtube videos). Naturally if you don’t want to select such build or don’t want to play it effectively, then it’s harder - but it’s a choice.

Many skilled people did it less than para 1500 this season. Many average skill long-time players did it around para 2000.
I did my first GR150 this season around para 1950 second attempt (first fail totally my own fault, avoidable mistakes). Took total 3 keys as I skipped one labyrinth map. My gear was far from perfect and while I’m not poor in this, I also don’t consider myself super skilled. And now I mostly play build which has about 2x damage output from gear compared to my first clear.

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I’d love to have themes in non season too :grinning:

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2000 is not mega paragon by any stretch of the imagination. And you only need to open until you get an open style map so maybe 4 or 5 keys. Hardly thousands.

You are still living in diablo world 5 years ago. Now a days 150 is not difficult what so ever.

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He mostly plays 1 build, impale, there is no ethereal for impale, so i dont think it is super easy with impale.

perhaps the game should be balanced for those ā€œunderperformingā€ builds then eh?

Yes, I consider 2k mega. I often only hit 1200 paragon in a season.

hear hear!

not from the vast majority of ā€œcasualsā€ it isn’t. 2000 is a lot. For you no lifers, sure…

Gee, I must be having a lot of bad RNG then. Last night, I had 2 mud tunnels followed by a barracks map in 1 GR alone.

That’s 1 of the ā€œunderperforming buildsā€. Instead of the focus, and player pressure being placed on Blizzard to properly balance the builds in the game, players just sit on their bums and do nothing.

As a FYI, I also play UE MS every season, but it’s more my Gold farming build so I can empower GRs for my s6 impale. I may push with UE MS this season though.

This season I have stepped outside of my comfort zone and started playing a Trag’Ouls DN build, which I am surprisingly really enjoying.

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Ouch. One hour a day is a no-lifer?

Used the paragon calculator for solo, GR120s, 4 min runs with 30 seconds downtime, starting a paragon 0 to paragon 2000. It would take 36 days. If it takes you 20 days to get to 70, get some decent gear, and some rift keys, you could still accomplish P2000 with a month left in the season.

P2k really, truly, isn’t that hard anymore. It is less a no-lifer thing and more of a L2P thing.

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I reached Paragon 3000 this Season after 98 hours with GoD Solo.
That would be about 1 hour a day or 8 hours on the weekends in a 3 months season.

I did a lot of Visons instead of normal rifts with my wizard and leveld my gems to 150 with him. So I would guess i could be even faster.

I do not know how long it took me to reach 2000. But i would guess under 50 hours.

GoD is a casual friendly easy speed 2-3 minutes build.

Did 131er at the end. Fastest 131er was in 1:12 on the level up to 3000 :grin:

https://imgur.com/a/oUzhjnd

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This sums up your playing style quite clearly. You must be a one hour per week player, in which case you will struggle to get close to a 150.

Paragon is ridiculously easy now a days, but you have to be efficient. So you must be either a). playing one hour per week at max or b). doing all your paragon farming on T16 rifts if you only hit P1200 in a season now.

There is a thing called ā€œGreater Riftsā€ in the game which you should look into. They should be your main source of paragon farming.

More power to you though, as long as you’re having fun.

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In this season 1200 is enough to clear 150 solo on a simple ( non archon ) wizard’s LoD.

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The soul shard season and ethereal season both are very strong, and when combined with the altar, should allow you to push 150 below 2k paragon on a decent number of strong builds. Not every build, but many builds.

I did GR150 SSF on 5/6 wizard sets under 2k paragon in Season 30 (soul shards) and 4/6 wizard builds under 2k paragon this season (ethereals). And no heavy fishing, plugging like 10-20 keys per build.

There are some of the other seasons where the theme won’t be as big a buff, and you’ll definitely need more than 2k paragon for a lot of builds to do 150 in those seasons, but in the right seasons (e.g. this one), 150 is very doable at low paragon with minimal fishing.

I think my earliest 150 clear in S30 was at 1500 paragon and my earliest 150 clear this season was 1700 paragon (and I could have gone earlier if I felt like it)

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For me it was S28 with the full altar and 1500 Tal Wiz.

You assume that the average person has a spare hour…or doesn’t have physical limitations that limit how long they can play, like health issues.

I’ve tried it many times and simply cannot get it to work. I’m obviously doing something wrong but can’t figure it out. It’s 1 of the few builds that I can’t get to work when I put my mind to it. Frustrating. Been there, done that, not going there again with this build.

Or, I simply don’t typically play a lot.

Despite my initial commentary on the start of the season and ethereals, I stepped outside of my comfort zone and tried out the Trag’Ouls DN build. Very happy I did, I’m not only enjoying the build immensly, but enjoying s32 and actually, for the first time in a long time, playing a lot. Still finding it slow to get paragon though. Doing GR130 in ~6 minutes (fastest run is just over 3 mins but 99% of GRs are crap mobs/maps/poor pylons and cruddy jugger elites, so you’re never going to be ā€˜speed’ running cos of the content design imho) without any augments yet. Just hit p1700. Have put on 900 paragons in 2 weeks. Hoping to hit p2000 this season and hit GR142 with the build.

Can you link to a build that’s pretty idiot proof and easy to play without tonnes of button mashing for me please?

I doubt that even this season, I’ll clear a GR150. A GR150 has mobs with 8x more health than a GR135 and I don’t see myself getting 8x more DPS from augments. Unless the DN Trag’Ouls damage scales with monster health?

I’m well aware of what GRs are. Have done an awful lot of them. Not as many as most serious players of course since I just don’t enjoy repetitive GR farming.

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This is part of your issue. For XP paragon farming you generally want to aim for 2 min runs. 3 x 2 min runs will net you more XP than 1 x 6 min run. Drop it to 120 - 125.

I set up my 2nd char this season as GOD. I keyboard macro 4 skills so only have to hold down RMB and push one other button every 5 seconds. Doesn’t get much easier than this.

Then you will never get a 150 pure and simple. It’s the design of the game.

Apart from previously mentioned GOD build try Tal Meteor Wizard. It has a bunch of skills with 10 minute cooldown so for most runs you only need to push them once. RMB is your main meteor attack skill. Super simple play style. I often play on my computer while watching Netflix on my TV as there’s not much concentrating at all.

Augments is absolutely required but 125s from Echoing Nightmares is enough. Doing 150 is all about luck with pylons that appear. Hence you need to fish for open map (6 - 8 keys usually), then hope to get an early condy and then round up 3 , 4, 5 elite groups and bring them towards the condy and zap them all down. Then ideally you have a power for boss. With Tal Wiz a power is not necessary. At about 2000 paragons it takes about 3 minutes to kill the boss WITHOUT a power, so not too bad.

Then you will not get your 2000 paragons. You need to commit to XP farming to get paragons. If you stick to 6 min runs it will take you a LOT longer to get paragons. 2 - 3 (max) min GRs is the most efficient way to get there.

Groups are of course MUCH faster to get paragons, however if you play solo like I do, then you just have to commit some time to farming. It is the nature of the beast.

Boring? Hell yes, but that is what is required.

GL.