Why not Haunt for Ring of Emptinesd

Why all WDs use Lacust Swarm to trigger Ring of Emptiness?
Why not Haunt? Are there some cons using Haunt?
Because could be good dince cost much less abd can spam Haunt and poison rune make mobs to take 20% more damage.

Many will use Locust Swarm because with the pestilence rune it will pretty much spread itself to every mob on the screen with one application.

For solo plsy or speed runs yes, this is convenient, but for grift push in party anywau Haunt spread fast enough (on dead hsunted mob spread haunt to another) and even can use that pasive skil that keep haunt forever.

I’m not here to debate you. I was just answering your question.

Yes, thanks. I was not debating with you, I was debating with the skils :slight_smile:

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Only Jade Harvester casts Haunt to do damage. For everyone else, you use either Haunt or Locust Swarm to proc rune.

Haunt only infects 1 target at a time. Locust Swarm infects every target on your screen.

So when you need to kill hundreds of mobs at the same time, which is better - Casting Haunt 100 times, or casting Locust Swarm one time?

It’s obvious, it’s casting Locust Swarm one single time to get the debuff up.

Even for Jade Harvester which wants to cast Haunt lots, you use 2 Haunt at one time rune, NOT the Poison Haunt rune, because 2 haunts at 1 time is 2x damage, but poison is only 20% more damage.

Not having problem with affect lot of mobs with haunt, on dead haunted mob go to another mob and used Creeping Dead pasive. Also with Pain Enhancer you have high attack sped and cast Haunt a lot.

Anyway observed something, haunt cause lag on big explosions, case a lot of mobs die and haunt seek another target…

It’s subpar, suboptimal, just overall BAD, ok? There is no contest, no argument, no question. For non-Jade builds, Locust Swarm is FAR superior for applying Ring of Emptiness. You don’t want to spam a spell that does absolutely no damage on it’s own - Haunt isn’t going to kill anything on it’s own. You want to cast Locust Swarm, and then nuke !@#$ with whatever your build uses, whether that’s spirit barrage, zombie wall, ect.

There is no debate about Haunt vs. Locust Swarm. Locust Swarm wins hands down for applying Ring of Emptiness, period. Spamming Haunt puts you 10+ GRs behind what you could otherwise be doing with Locust Swarm.

get it ! Lacust Swarm FTW !
but another question,
is Pestilence rune a must for Lacust Swarm? or might be used with psyhical rune also for damage reduction? maybe using also Creeping Death pasive in this case.

So, overall…

Pestilence exponentially increases the spread speed of Pestilence - 1 target affects 2 which hits 4 which hits 8 and so on and so forth, essentially guaranteeing that you cover an entire group quickly.

Otherwise you run into the same problem with Haunt in which you need to cast it several times to infect hundreds of mobs.

If you absolutely need the damage reduction to survive, then Creeping Death and Cloud of Insects will work. But if you don’t, Pestilence without Creeping Death is better.

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Not only damage reduction but sometimes play with monks that do not use/trigger Palm for Pain Enhancer, so psyhical rune from Lacusm Swarm will do it.

The physical locust swarm rune does NOT count as a bleed, and so does not trigger Pain Enhancer.

yes it does. tested it several times. www.maxroll.gg also mentions it.
Any psyhical DOT count for Pain Enhancer.

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