Kerrigan turned villain to savior of all the universe.
Sylvanas “We live in a society” is pretty much Kerrigan 2.0 in WoW with her “GOING TO SET US ALL FREE FROM A SOCIETY.” speech in the cinematic.
Why is Rathma helping Lilith and calling her mother? He hates Lilith.
Blizzard, please stop trying to do complicated stories. You’re not good at it, you’re not clever. Your stuff reads like bad fan fiction of “STRONG WAHMEN” characters. I don’t mean be rude here, but after Sylvanas pimp slapping one of the strongest villains in WoW… which again, wasted yet another important lore character who did very little just like Vol’jin.
Heaven VS Hell. That’s it. We don’t need to bring Lilith into this picture at all. Whatever you think with Lilith, if you’re going in the direction of making her a good person and changing Rathma’s goal and philosophy towards the conflict is just…
It’s just lazy writing. You’re basically stealing characters and writing fan fiction. Please stop. Hire some damn writers that don’t need to shoe horn their poltitical leanings in their writing.
Nobody was “shocked” by the ending and beginning of BFA. We all rolled out eyes and screamed “NOOO” when Sylvanas took out the Lich King.
I don’t believe the identity of the person who revived Lilith has been confirmed, so I’m don’t know if it’s Rathma or not.
As for Lilith’s role, it’s too soon to say. If she’s an ally, then I hope she’s someone who lends guidance to us from time to time, but also orchestrate some of the deadly ordeals we’ll face throughout sanctuary; again that’s if she’s to be an ally to our characters. If she’s an enemy, then my only hope is that she doesn’t spout her plans to us periodically like a certain Lord of Sins did.
It’s 100% Lilith, that’s the Daughter of Mephisto and the the co creator of Sanctuary. It’s plainly stated in the cinematic who she is.
That is Rathma - I didn’t believe it at first, but he’s missing his pinky and is about the correct age with the correct looks. I own the books.
Lilith’s role should be kept in the Abyss. No offense but I don’t believe any of Blizzard’s writers currently could pull off a good enough story to bring her out of the Abyss and Since Sylvanas went Kerrigan 2.0 on us. I have no doubt Lilith is just gonna be Kerrigan is gonna be 3.0.
My mistake! But no - it is Rathma. Of course I won’t be able to say 100%, but I am certain it is. Again, he’s even missing his pinky just like Rathma.
Sure. If you like strawman arguments. But that’s a logical fallacy. Sorry that I don’t like Mary Sues who don’t earn their powers nor do anything of substance.
Don’t care if it’s a guy or a girl, I made plenty of complaints of generic white dude about other games. But good try though.
Hmm lets wait until we see more about the person who revived Lilith, and the rest of the story. I didnt see any scooby doo villian talk yet, so it could be great for all we know
I know, but I have no faith in Blizzard’s writers anymore. The new WoW cinematic clearly shows they don’t give a crap about original characters and the importance of lore.
Important lore characters just seem to die without any meaning and just brushed over. I bet they had no plans for Vol’jin after Legion but had to shoe horn him into BFA due to backlash and criticism.
They just do whatever they want, whenever they want, and retcon so much… it’s just… tiring.
Why do people always think lore is some alternate reality with it’s own truth and do not realize it is simply fiction? Fiction serving a purpose, be it a new movie or a new game.
As long as the story of the game in itself is roughly based on what we had before, a bit interesting and without too many plot holes, fine with me.
I just hope Lilith will not be just another punching bag. I’d really like to coop with her. How about Lilith sends the Player on a mission, he gets overwhelmed and caught, and then you can play Lilith to free him? That would be so awesome…
Worst part of the D3 story for me was the ending with Kulle. He gave me a (true) warning, and suddenly I was supposed to kill him without reason, and I thought “what the hell?”.
How do people honestly don’t know or understand what a franchise is?
Just because it’s fiction writing doesn’t mean you can or should just make things up as you go. That’s called hijacking a franchise and doing whatever you want.
If you suddenly have a medieval fantasy and suddenly include modern day space ships. It wouldn’t make for a good story and lately, I’m sick of writers hijacking per-established characters and doing whatever they want them because they lack creativity.
What’s the pattern, then? Let’s talk literary prowess, here.
There is a documented reason Sylvanas was able to do this. Unabated and aided for some time by the Horde, she had all the time and freedom in the world to pursue all manner of self-indulgent, power thirsty endeavors. Something tells me you don’t like what happened because you don’t like Sylvanas, but the writing isn’t at fault for that. There are other things aside from this to complain about in WoW, and you brought up none.
Heaven vs Hell has been both subtext and main arc in Diablo. Right now, due to the events in Diablo 3, it makes sense that this theme will play a role in the story to some degree. Heaven and Hell both sustained severe losses, leaving room for a new faction to swoop in, or for someone to capitalize on the power vacuums left behind. Lazy writing would be ignoring this, not exploiting it.
??? Nothing else to be said here, just thought it needed a good ???
Sylvanas was my favorite character in WC3 and felt really tragic for her when she attempted to end her suffering when Arthas was finally killed - free from her rage she only found out not because anything she done but was confined to WoW’s hell because the actions of another person.
She had a deep and interesting character complexity that I really enjoyed and they’re completely ruined her character and took her into a direction… that just spits on the character she was.
A dev in the Blizzcon D4 lore panel said “…the Triune responsible for bringing Lilith back to Sanctuary…”. Looks like the dude who summoned her in the trailer is a Triune cultist.
