As in an “average working person who buys the game on a whim because of all the hype”, and just wants to see what it’s all about and at most finish the story. Obviously not the enthusiast ARPG enjoyer who already buys the game with the intention of omegablasting it
Didnt Blizzard say that campaign only takes you to about lvl 50?
In any case, it is fairly common that a lot of players do not finish the campaign in games they buy.
Another “why is the game now $70” thread?
lol
Hell I paid more for games for my SNES back in the day than I have for PC games. AND I have the receipts to prove it:
https://1drv.ms/i/s!AjIesNsEIx405DCXGEK7t8hOUzXP?e=uOvNF3
So, no, this is not that extreme. If you can’t handle the price, wait it out till it goes on sale down the road. *shrug
It’s funny that people keep bringing up that time. Here in my country, the SNES was considered a “rich kid’s toy” because of the price of the console and games. If we’re going back in that direction, that just means that in general the hobby is getting less accessible again. Well, not the hobby as a whole, just select AAA games. Things like Gamepass really help though.
Me when I bought D3 after the open beta weekend. And here I am still. 
Even though I’m getting bored quickly when season gets to the pushing part after finishing the journey.
I did that with Skyrim when it released and was hyped out as being the holy grail of immersive videogames or something.
It lasted about 15 hours for me.
It’s always a roulette when it comes to highly anticipated releases and actually liking the game.
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Well, it all boils down to entertainment. There is a cost involved, regardless what platform or style of game.
If you feel like the cost is too high, then that may mean it doesn’t have the value you feel/think it should. That doesn’t mean it isn’t going to be wrongly priced.
The base game cost is not unreasonable. Would I like to see it be cheaper? Sure! But is the price going to make me not buy it? Well, no, as I have already bought it. Also bought my dad a copy and I did buy the collector box.
I still to this day kick myself for not getting the collector edition when D3 was launched. Wasn’t going to make that mistake again. lol
Anyway. To each their own. Not everyone is going to be able to get the same version, let alone balance their need to play the game versus needing to pay for other things more important.
It is a recreational activity, not something you need to have. So you have to balance that accordingly, and not everyone is going to agree there.
Game on.
If I’m using it incorrectly then please explain how house that costs 200k+ today would’ve been 7000-8000 in 1940s if inflation isn’t reason?
I would argue that there are more factors with some things than just inflation alone.
Like demand vs availability, greed from the sellers, market inflation (usually again greed driven), and market volatility. (having it fluctuate up and down easily)
Housing is one of the worst commodities to deal with and probably not the best example of simple inflation.
Because the price went up.
The way where I think people (and I was not specifically saying you, as I dont know which way you used it) are using inflation wrong, is describing it as some equal force that devalues money, resulting in higher prices. But those higher prices are drastically different between different products, It is not some generic force making all prices go up.
Inflation is just the measurement of prices going up on average, with a very big emphasis on average.
I paid $60 for Chrono Trigger in 1995. I have no idea why games aren’t $150 almost 30 years later. $70 is a bargain, especially since budgets for these games are frequently over a hundred million dollars at this point.
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You obviously can’t debate the subjective value of something, that’s true. You can definitely debate the relative cost compared to other similar products though. One can make an argument that compared to other ARPG experiences in the market, it is on the pricey side, as ARPGs from other studios tend to have a price range varying from F2P (PoE) to around $25 bucks (grim dawn definitive edition, including the cost of DLCs to make it a bit fairer considering D4 is claiming to have a lot of content in the base game). It basically puts into perspective how much the Diablo branding can add to the cost of a game.
Which was a purchase that included not only the game (which was pretty high budget for the time being the most ambitious RPG of it’s day), but also the manufacturing costs of your physical cartridge which contained a bunch of electronic components, including extra RAM and even coprocessors, which made it essentially a piece of hardware (and hardware in the 90’s wasn’t cheap), plus the costs of transport and retail of that product (including the cut the game store got out of it). Compared to that, the distribution of digital games is a lot cheaper and you are buying your game directly from the publisher.
Cheaper distribution as mentioned, and even though the cost of developing AAA games is high, their sales numbers are also tremendously higher compared to the 90’s. Those things all balance out.
To be honest, that game was a lot higher when it released. I know, I bought it over 10 years ago, before it was on Steam, back when it first was on Bumble. (I think it was). It was even still under a kickstarter at that time, and I think I paid either 75 or 100 for it. I would have to search for the receipt. I do know my game name is in the credits. (DTMAce).
Still, comparing it to recent titles at their release price would be the most accurate way to see the differences.
If sellers are greedy then why games have been dirt cheap last 2 decades? Shouldn’t they be 120$/140€ in that case?
That’s why. I’m not counting kickstarters, early access, etc, because you’re supporting the development of the game by paying more. The original steam price of the game was 30 dollars.
Its cheap. If u find it expensive i would recommend u to go look for a job instead of playing games.
The hours of entertainment u get out of it is well worth it. I just had a bottle of wine which cost way more than that and it surely didnt last for hours. Same if u go out to a half decent restaurant.
Yeah definitely. Though Grim Dawn + all expansions was like $65 at release prices of each (also a bit unfair to compare base game + 2 expansions with just a base game of course).
Slightly different, but still similar genre, games like Borderlands and Nioh are releasing with similar $60 price points. Despite weaker brands.
But brand strength surely is a big factor in the pricing of games.
If the Grim Dawn had released their game at $60 it would surely have sold way less, and they might very well have made way less revenue on it overall.
Nioh or Team Ninja are not exactly as strong brands as Diablo or Blizzard though, while still going for the same price point.
There probably also is a lot of company “culture” in it. If you are a developer who want to be in the business of releasing so-called “full price” games, releasing a game at a lower price comes with some dangers, as your customer base might begin to expect that price point going forward.
Same with sales. These days people expect massive price cuts on games after release, because they have been trained to expect it over the years.
Which might result in less release day sales, and a loss of revenue. Nintendo has tried to avoid that by being much more limited with their sales, but for nearly everyone else, it is an uphill battle to change decades of expectations among customers. F2P might very much do the same.
A much larger market surely has to be the biggest reason for the current prices.
I thought that too. But checked due to Oshoguns post, and it seems like it released at $25. Which is a bit crazy.
I bought it through the kickstarter too, which is a bit different from release pricing of course, but apparently I paid $18.
Ah yes, it’s always as easy as “finding a job”. It guarantees that the job’s pay won’t be trash, or that he won’t have most of his hard earned money after being explored by capitalism taken by student debt, healthcare, rent, the costs of providing for your family and all the other ways you can easily see your paycheck drained before you even get to look at it.
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I like how OP asked a question and never came back; I love these new kids on the forum.
Been a lot of them lately. Keep stirring the pot, but don’t stick around to lick the spoon.
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