Yeah well, what is only left is to beg Blizzard to make a remaster of d2 from scratch if they want to please the old community.
The old community will not shut up until a successfull sucessor or remaster of D2 is made and people are already skeptical of D4 so far, we see it in this forum or even in reddit.
D2 Remaster really should happen no matter what.
But now it sounds like if it ever happens, it will be after D4 releases. So, 5+ years from now at best.
Please exclude me from your āWEā 
I donāt want D4 to be D2 MK II. Personally I would like to ask for a D2 remake, if it success, it will ask for its expansions.
Judging by the replies you have been receiving. The āWEā you were referring to actually covers way less than you expected I imagine.
Personally, seeing D4 copying more D2 than necessary would mean the death of the franchiseā¦ Going back and copy a 20 year old formula. Remember other games that did the same? Grim Dawn, Path of Exile, Torchlight 2 being the notable ones that did it best. Yet none of these games are as popular as youād expect a āD2 formulaā to be.
Some people, myself included, actually want some new surprises and are waiting to see how they pan out. D3 did a lot of things wrong, but that does not mean it did nothing right.
Blizzard needs to learn some lessons with Diablo and its fans. But going back to make āa better D2ā would not be the lesson I personally want them to learn. Donāt go back and just copy everything D2 did - Instead, take what people liked about D2, take what people liked about D3, find the best way possible to bind them, and innovate. Thatās what I want D4 to be, similar but superior than both D2 and D3 in every way.
Truth be told, a modern remake of Diablo 2 sure sounds nice. But thats how it should just remain - Diablo 2 Remake. For Diablo 4 to go back to mimic all of Diablo 2 and just add a tiny bit (call it ābuild on top of itā I guess) would effectively mean the death of the franchise for me. D2 still is a great game, but take a modernized D2 and call it D4 just seemā¦ so, so stale and would not feel too different than PoE.
No.
Those nintendo switch players must have really loved playing D2 on their portable console.
Also, those tens of millions of people who bought D3 long after release - must be living under rocks, because apparrently most of them didnt watch a single review, never heard their friends talking about D3, and made purchase based on nostalgia alone.
Is that what you think happens? If so, my point is made.
But if you still have room for argument - hereās another one.
Diablo 2 sold about 5 million copies. Lets be super (un)generous to D2 fanboys and say that another 5 million pirated it.
Even if we assume that ALL of those 10 mil loved D2 and bought D3 because of it - youāve still got less than a third of D3 sales. The other 2/3 are thanks to the game itself, not its predecessor.
Finally, youād have to be very bold to assume that of those 10 mil none of them loved D3. There are plenty of those who did.
As for the ādont fix whatās not brokenā part - Diablo 2 IS broken. It is poorly aged mechanically and would not sell well in 2023-4, nor would it have sold well in 2012.
It needed renovation. And admittedly, first version of D3 was a bad game - but they improved it, and today Diablo 3 design is head and shoulders above D2
I never played any of the Diablo franchise prior to Diablo 3. I donāt want Diablo 4 to be Diablo 2 2.0.
Those are your words. Do you understand now?
You dont have to use any skills on cooldown and you are not forced to use generators either.
Thats what im having a dig at. You know D2 mechanics from what you said but your knowledge of D3 is so limited that you are in no position to comparing those 2 different games.
ok mate you win i will install D3 that i uninstalled years ago and lets see if much has changed since then, ill give you proper feedback afterwards.
No no no no, absolutely not, D2 is not the answer. Blizzard needs to learn from everything they have done and all the other ARPGs out there and give us something that blows away anything they have done to date. While D2 has some good design ideas it is an out dated relic that is not the answer for moving forward
Iāve also seen the rebuttal of RoS only sold 2-3m copies, ignoring the BattleChests/All in one collections that were purchased for consoles and PC after RoS launched that are not figured in. The fact is it sold. It sold better than any other Diablo game and better than any other iso ARPG. Most of it being sold, like you said, well after they hype was gone.
Oh ya āweā you do not speak for everyone
Going off Blizzcon and the subsequent interviews, it looks like they are to a point. Obviously they are drawing inspiration and fitting in what can fit within their own philosophy. Atmosphere looks to be nailed down and is a better fit for the darkness many fans want.
While they simplified the some main stats into Attack and defense, it appears that they are taking away multipliers, adding +skill points back in, and having the affixes be more important this time around, making the character power split 50/50 between character and gear as opposed to 100% gear in D3. As well as, making sets an option. I like that it was said sets are basically for inexperienced players or those that donāt really want to get to technical with builds. Legendaries will a third way to customize a build. Similar to LoN builds now. Play what you want and find legendaries that enhance it.
End game seems robust, while there really isnāt much you can do, I love the keyed dungeon idea and random events in dungeons as well as dungeon objectives can change each time you enter one making each play through different. With over 100 dungeons planned, that is just a massive amount of different maps. SO itās should feel much different than farming maps in PoE or GRs in D3.
While all classes share 6 skills, with the different systems each class may have, it should make them all feel different to play. I will admit, at higher levels all of them sort of felt the same in D3, just different colored spell effects and being ranged or melee.
The world being open and pretty huge should bring back that exploration aspect of delving deeper under the chapel, or exploring the large zones in D2. All in all, I liked what I saw, but then I liked D3, D2, and D1, so Iām sure Iāll like D4. But I think it is a step in the right direction for those that were turned off. They will not please everyone though.
i want d3, not d2;
-it would be like having to play HC in D3 to me.
D2 remake sure, would buy it.
Some mechanics of D2 just would not sell today, because the game did like to punish for bad decisions or not being focused which is not acceptable anymore.
Is there something else in D3 other than HC game mode? if we forget about the events only 24/7 gamers can actually join, the game gives no challenge at all, well unless you play HC.
Speak for yourself, you might want a darker D2 clone. But I donāt I want and improvement of the best things from D2 and the best things from D3. An improvement of the best of both games is what will make D4 great. A darker clone of D2 with just a different story wonāt cut it for me.
Donāt forget the promotion they had running where if people renewed their WOW annual fee they got a D3 free. Yes, they count those as sales. D3V was not a very good game it got bad reviews. Its sales were based off D1/D2, renewing WOW memberships, and people who buy anything Blizz throws out. I guarantee the sales of D3 solely because it was D3 are substantially lower than the total sales.
Good news!
You can still play D2.
Just to clarify again āweā you do not speak for everyone, just yourself and WE do not want D2 WE want D4
Fixed your typo, youāre welcome.