Like I said, I can escalate it, but I honestly have no idea how Blizzard handles the streamer relationships. Ok, I have one story, but it is for WoW and does not set precedent. I can’t promise anything will happen by pointing Nev to this stuff, or that if it does happen, we will know.
They rarely step in to “moderate” player disputes. Further, I don’t know any of the folks involved personally so I can’t help find common ground/resolve it. I have talked to Free once, and never met the streamer.
Well, I suggest watching the VOD for yourself when you can. If some of the things that happened took place in a lot of other forums I’m in, I think a good handful of people would have been made to force-ignore each other at the very least.
I didn’t know there was so much drama to be had in the class communities.
Umm…the Barb community is passionate and often sticks together. They are not wrong though that class changes were way overdue. I also don’t think a total nerf to WW was reasonable and hope a compromise is reached when we see the final patch notes.
As for force ignore, the current forums don’t have an ignore feature right now. You just kind of have to use self restraint to not reply to people.
The streamer happens to be in the right here. That’s the ironic part. A certain somebody, who I believe is TL3, got away with far too much and needs a time-out. Fluffy didn’t nerf anyone. Fluffy just reported the nerf as being small, which it is, but in relative terms and this TL 3 guy jumped over all him.
Yup.
Also yup. Cheetah and I even agree, which might be the 2nd or 3rd time ever 
Okay, you and I need to stop agreeing or the sky is gonna fall. Did WW need a 7 GR nerf? Prob not. A 3-4 GR nerf? Prob yes. They should have left Lamentation alone and nerfed the 2 piece Waste set bonus to 400% or just reduced Lamentation to 100%.
This is just pathetic. No where in the video did he tell anybody to flag posts. No where did he call anybody anything other than an idiot which is mild at best. The thread to which he was referencing in his stream was a direct attack on him and had many people naming and shaming him yet the mods failed to close it in anything close to a timely manner. Further, he is reading PUBLIC REPLIES in his video and responding verbally to them - free had every right to post what he did, but the streamer had every right to call him an idiot and to show peoples PUBLIC RESPONSES on stream.
Naming and shaming applies to the forums but don’t get upset if people with a bigger platform use it to respond with.
The entire situation has been blown away out of proportion, it’s laughable
To all Barbarians, you’re not alleviating the situation when you insult the streamer, you come out as obnoxious instead. Please can we just agree Barbarians got a buff and nothing else matters? It wasn’t a small nerf for sure but concern horning and picking the smallest detail won’t make you look good.
Do you honestly think the thread that was naming and shaming that streamer should have been left open for as long as it was? You’re going to “escalate” the issue? To do what exactly? Hopefully get the moderators to actually enforce the code of conduct on their forums and lock down threads that name and shame. Or was the streamer in question just supposed to not respond to people?
Seriously though, if you’ve watched the clip, what is it exactly that you think needs to be escalated and evaluated?
I think what OP means is that his followers after watching his stream might intentionally flag the people on the forums. Of course, no way to prove it though.
These kinds of threads aren’t going to help anything.
It’s best to not stir up drama.
Call idiotic comments out and move on.
Just giving free publicity to this troll at this point.
No the person who started the thread needs punishment. It was a thread that was nothing but a public call out for the stupidest reason possible: the streamer reported the ptr lamentation changes from blizzcon in regards to the nerf and titled it small. That is it. The “barb community” is way out of line here and the stupid rhetoric of "we’ve sucked for so long we deserve to be outraged and triggered by the most inane stuff possible " is complete nonsense.
Heads up, this is a public forum. If you post here don’t expect your post to be private.
We get it. You hate Barbarians.
Looks like you got your way and WW is still going to be a low tier build next patch.
Congrats.
We can go over to the barb forums where people are literally posting about flagging anybody who disagrees with the barb Nerf and how they’ve ran out of flags? That’s abuse. Not everyone who disagrees is a troll and flagging as such is abuse.
Actually I main barb on my switch… Nice try though.
It’s time to abandon this thread no good will come of it.
Blizzard topics are suppose to be an open forum for different opinions. Even people who stream are allowed their commentary even if it is not popular. If that party wants to display some public comments on a stream, as long as it done in a non-threatening or demeaning manner whats the problem?
I enjoyed a lot of the comments in this thread, but you guys need to stop all the blame game now so that a good cause can go forward. Thanks.
Usually they identify who is a troll based on inconsistencies in their expressions etc. Then, instead of feeding the troll with more conversation, you have to flag. So new comers may not know this and facilitate more trolling without knowing. Stopping to engage identified trolls is the suggested form of action in these kinds of game forums.
Flagging is not used to silence opposing opinions, they are used for people with mixed messages that may be actually trolling.
For example, this streamer’s “small nerf” can be considered as trolling as we can show that the resulting nerf is actually worth 7 GR, which is not a small nerf. You get the idea.
And the way he is unable to logically support his claim is not helping, it looks like trolling. Yet no one reported him and on top, the parties involved are actually trying to be civil (mostly). This stream pop out of the blue and unfortunate.
I am not seeing any punishment though as this is twitch and has no connection here. But it is not a tasty situation.
You had a thread closed, now you won’t let up. Please stop the name calling and calm down,
I watched the video. Not sure what’s wrong. He broke down each post and backed up his view on the lamentation nerf.
And the contradiction on the elitism seems to be spot on.
Fluffy is saying they are nerfing the top two builds, Vyr and the Necro one, so instead of allowing another one to take their place, Blizzard is bringing down the Barb so that it’s more in line with the other classes. Otherwise, Barb will be the new outlier in solo GR pushes. If lamentation is OP, what he is saying makes perfect sense.
You’re literally making my point for me. Thank you - you are the prefect embodiment of how toxic the barb community has become.
Lol. Come on, Prokahn. There was no civility here. The barb forums are completely at fault.