We won, my brothers and sisters!

1: We already got some changes.



Co-creator of Diablo 2, David Brevik:

(He reiterated multiple times, on streams too!)
Co-creator of Diablo 2, Max Schaefer made further games of which Torchlight II is worthy of mentioning. Guess what? Has personal loot and changes we are asking for.

Food for thought, let’s see how long it takes purists to digest. And yes, I am excited to see how this topic will age too!

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Just a FYI , You seem to be under some sort of impression that QoL changes are major and or drastic changes to the core game that is D2. Honestly, I love the classic and played it exclusively for 15+ years and I have no issues with QoL Updates. Minor tweaks to making the game better and more playable is VASTLY DIFFERENT than the total changes to the game that some people want.
Also just a FYI if you think that 8k people is a lot concerning people that have played the original you are delusional to say the least. Nothing on the survey results shown are anything beyond QoL additions except for potentially more "End Game " content which I can say most are not against if done right .The problems begin with wanting to basically change the core fundamental’s of D2.

My two cents take it how you like but TBH 8K responses is nothing That is a tiny fraction of the people that actually spent any amount of actual time playing D2


But… Purists are fighting against this very list?!
Also, not listed by the very next one with high percentage is personal loot.
Also, the point is not the survey, but Rod acknowledging it.
Also, “purists” are even less than 8k, so…

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Not sure who you are talking about but players have been asking for things like stackable runes, and gems for years. Again there is NOTHING on that list that changes the core fundamental’s of the game which your so called "Purists " want to keep intact .

You are using the term in a really broad sense of the word. I think you would be really hard pressed to find just about anyone myself included that literally spent years playing this game that are against minor QoL changes that actually improve game play and again NOT change core fundamental’s which the VV team had and has said repeatedly from day one they want to keep intact .


You maybe have not spent enough time on the forums but what I mean by purists is exactly what I wrote because they are against stackables, charm inventory, consensual PvP, personal loot and even more storage.
They were also against ladder content in nonladder, fixing abusable bugs and I am sure some even has a say on removing cow king locking cows level.

In fact some of them were saying “just google it” in response to more information like on the list, forgetting altogether console players.

You’re not purist you are like me so heads up you will be called D3 Kid and “go play D3”. :slightly_smiling_face:

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You truly won nothing. The game will launch with FFA, no roll system, hostile mechanics remain as is. The best part, once it launches good luck combatting those features.

Typical to proclaim victory before its even happened. You heard it here first: Hold the L because those features will never hit live.

And telling people to go play D3 is a valid response. You are asking for things you ALREADY HAVE in a modern trilogy. Go where the things you want exist, because they don’t exist here.


dude is just trolling. he has too be. that or I simply have too much faith that the human race cannot produce a specimen that idiotic.

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Dear Lord you actually want this crap added to a perfect ARPG. This is ridiculous can you please keep these crazy ideas for Diablo 4. These are bad ideas for pvp and shared loot is for newbs.


You seem mean, i wonder whats your trauma

Well Temperfied, I present to you my response to you on other topic:



Me and the vast majority that support Blizzard. Stick to 2000 please.

Awwww how cute, little kid watch some DC animations or something.

I told you earlier he had ffa loot while giving brain on birth. And maybe had connection issue at this time…

I believe you were attempting to make a joke.
You seem to be struggling over there, don’t forget to breathe!

And you are asking to keep things that ALREADY EXIST in the original game, which is still available and you can play right now.
D2R shall not just be D2HD.

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More signs of victory, my brother/sister!

On Personal Loot:

On further updates:

It’s all too clear now, like I said, refund now “purists” or pre-order and savor EVERY minute of launch because the days of griefing and being toxic are long gone!

I am so excited, going to hit that pre-order button soon because I assume Future Plans will be revealed within next weeks!

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You’re toxic AF. Also if you haven’t even preordered the game who really cares what you think you’re not even a customer yet.


You have no understanding of business whats-so-ever, don’t you? This is how they win me and the vast majority, Blizzard understands that which is why they are still here and have made the fastest selling PC game of all time (Diablo III).

And yes I am toxic because I want to Make D2R Better, right?
Sorry, this is today’s world, I hope we get Personal Loot and Consensual PvP, opposites of both are the true definition of Toxic!

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I own two. Meanwhile you haven’t even bought the $40 game.

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Blizzards decline started after D3 was released an continues till this day. D3 lost 65% of it’s player base in less then two months after release because D3 failed in so many ways. Reaper of souls opening sales was 2/3 less then D3 release. So they managed to burn 2/3 of their customers from the D3 franchise just between opening release and expansion.

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I have the cure for cancer.

Not buying it has nothing to do with $$$, even if it was $5 I wouldn’t buy it unless it stands to today’s standards. Like I said though, I am excited for Future Plans… Vote with your wallets and all of that.

I don’t understand still why you guys are into Shared Loot, it just benefits who has less latency and/or hacks, and who isn’t ranged, and has absolutely no skill in click click click. As for Non-Consensual PvP that is just being toxic and griefing.

Why are you guys really mad? Why do you want it to be anti-social toxic playground?

Oh God, this again!
D2 = 4 million copies sold, of which most individuals buy 4+ keysets (standing strong 20+ years, totally flawless, haha :roll_eyes:).
D3 = 6.3 millions shifted which 3.5 millions sold day one only (almost outsold D2 LTD sales in 24 hours!!!), stands at 20+ million copies (not sure as of which date, 2015?), of which most individuals buy one copy.

D3 was a massive critical success, whether you want to be an emotional fanboy of D2 or not, facts remain facts.

Also for the record, RoS sold 2.7 million copies week one.

This is actually a very dumb statement. D2 was released in a ERA of gaming when it was only “niche” it wasn’t mainstream yet. D2 was also not heavily advertised compared to D3. Blizzcon, social media, TV, Internet everywhere… half these things didn’t even exist in this capacity when D2 came out, an people were gaming on freaking Dial up. To even compare the ERAs is a joke an very unintelligent.

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