SO 4 VISIONS:
4 floors - 1 rift guardian level - 2 keys - 1 from chest
5 floors - 1 rift guardian - 1 key - 1 from chest
3 floors - 0 rift guardian level - 0 keys - 1 from chest
7 floors - 2 rift guardian level -4 keys - 1 from chest
ALL T16 HARDCORE
what has happened to the drop rates of keys?
cains is on, altar finished
did blizzard shadow nerf the keys to bring back rift crap?
Yup. I get maybe 6 keys in a 8 lvl fissure with 2 boss lvls. Before it’d be 12+. I had to run 2 normal rifts tonight when i went through a fissure slump. I am aghast;) I had just unlocked pick up altar pet so it wasnt too bad.
I must be taking them all.
I have been getting 1-3 per boss level running mostly T1 to T10 Visions.
Yes. Omega-nerf.
In S29 I didn’t run any standard rifts and got all my keys from the visions. Now we are back to public T16 runs it seems.
All the visions are still good for are the bounty mats and gear drops and thus the chance for primals (thanks for abusing the primal beam for the useless shards btw). They also really lack gems unless you find a goblin pack.
Death Breaths also have been nerfed, I think there were 3-4 times the number in S29. Running with double DB on follower but not in altar.
You know that they can be salvaged or used for augments?
Did you know that water can be made MORE wet? All you need is soap.
And also, sometimes, RNG is random. Who knew?
I think I had 16 GR keystones before I got to 70. Leveled mostly on Hard but switched to Master when I got lvl1 (70) weapon. Now I have tried to avoid them because I need 1 more plan for jeweler before I get full Inna set. Why is it that to get 5th takes eternity?
you can buy the hellfire ring plans in act 2 for 2 million gold. they give you 4 jc recipes in one
I too noticed a drastic drop in keys from visions of enmities. 
I think that lizard should always guarantee at least one boss level every time you enter a v.e.
This reduction was made evident during PTR S30 just no official notes ever said they did but it was clear they did since GR guardians in S29 used to always drop keys, multiple copies now they seem to only want to drop 1 which might get you 2 from Cains, maybe a few drop 2 w/o Cains but you’ve got to be like floor 10+ for that.
Death’s Breath also got toned down from their outrageous rate in S29 as well. I wouldn’t be surprised if the whole thing was just toned down but I haven’t noticed a huge difference in equipment loot, think that stayed the same or either got a minor boost.
Not a big deal. There’s just a bigger demand now for keys when you need to lvl up all the gems. I would ask for a close rift option though. No one likes big empty or space corridors. You know the maps lol
I don’t know.
I had a vision that took me an hour to reach the bottom of. Went from level 16 to 19 during it. Had 3 floors with bosses. Got 10 keys total. Had another 3 floors that were all elites.
It was a slog when you are low leveling the slow way. haha
But there had to be 15+ floors. It just kept going and going, and it was a literal hour before I reached the bottom and hit the goblin. Got a few legendaries, several DBs, lots of mats and upgrades though. I don’t mind this option for leveling a new character at all. And since I’m not in a hurry, I don’t care if I level to 70 in a day or a week.
Game on.
IDK, I had about 30 of them from doing visions here and there while leveling to 70, which was a good starter pack. 
I don’t really care anymore. I got 6pc and Chiltara dropped gemstone.
I was thinking that death breaths were nerfed as well.
Yeah, game is trolling hard 
Like, “oh, red beam, a primal!” - “nah, an ember…”
I’m doing great thanks.
I didn’t notice this myself but I also didn’t play that much in season 29, I do feel like the spawn rates have been reduced though? In 29 I would do runs of Fields of Misery, Halls of Agony 2 and Temple of the Firstborn and get one every time in each. Now it feels like I might be better off doing bounty runs if I want to get visions because I am at least getting something if the vision doesn’t spawn. Although I get 1 or maybe 2 each run.
I prefer that they nerfed the GR keys rate. There was no reason to do normal rifts last season, for a season that is fine but permanently wouldn’t be ideal. I was hoping we would have this way of Visions for mats, Rifts for Keys and GR’s for XP/Gear/Push with EN’s for augments (Which are luckily also not as needed this season).
I have seen that too. If you don’t get one after one level make a new game. It’s more like sometimes locking up.
I’m also doing solo act 1 bounties grabbing any visions that spawn along the way. Two birds with one stone.
I wouldn’t miss not having to do rifts again to get keys… 