I am a Crusader main, and I grinded this game so hard at the beginning of the season. All I wanted was a “Redeemer” with either high bombard damage (Mortal Drama), or Messerschmidts Reaver affix.
I never got it. What I did get, was multiple EXACT COPIES of a redeemer with the exact same % damage (421%) over and over, and not one single messerschmidts affix. The same anomaly also happened with finding high fist of the heavens damage on an Astreons.
I call shenanigans. Its like trying to win a ring toss game where the ring doesnt even fit over the bottle.
Meanwhile, monks easily find flying dragon and echoing fury. Crusaders couldnt even GET echoing fury affix.
I found this to be terribly unfair and it killed my motivation to play. I made due with a in geom redeemer but that made me unable to participate in any group runs because of safety issues (I play hardcore).
Yep. I have been grinding since the beginning of the season with similar results in that, yes you do seem to get a bunch of the same junk Ethereals. Just like everything else RNG is weighted by each specific having a different hidden drop number and most likely the specific variation of crap stats.
I have been focused on playing without using the Puzzle ring cheat and I have gotten all but 3, which have been elusive for nearly 2 weeks. As you say I do get more Ethereals, just more of the same useless ones I already have.
Twisted Evil RNG!
Im saying its not RNG. There are 100 percentage points between 400 and 500 so if it was RNG I would have a 1/1000 chance of finding two the exact same percentage. Meanwhile, AT LEAST FOUR that I found have the exact same % of 421.
Ya, been there.
Probably the worst thing about this game is it’s RNG.
Items in general suck, but the fact that items are weighted heavily,
it comes down to 1 good item out of hundreds if not thousands.
One of the reasons why Legendaries rain from the sky, cause of the different
variables and rolls on each item.
They could of had tighter numbers, or some guaranteed range, where you
don’t waste your time re-rolling something a thousand times.
Without the RNG the replayability of the game would be close to zero.
The hunt for ethereals this season has been interesting but a lot of fun.
I wound up finding the best Grandfather I have seen and the best Bartuc’s as well. My DH luck has been mediocre. I am sure there are better ones, but I have yet to see them. Ethereals have been a lot of fun.
I had plentiful drops for both DH and Barb, but am getting a whole lot of nothing for my Wiz. Only Ethereal drop so far for the Wiz has been a DH crossbow. An item that I already have multiple copies of… Good job, RNG.
It took me 105 hours to get the flying dragon affix. Nearly all of that time was farming 90+ this season. Not all monks are easily getting their preferred ethereal
I have 2 Redeemers with messerschmidts but both have the wrong passive for my Bombardment. Not sure if you realize this, but Crusader has the worst Ethereal RNG.
Ethereal Legendary Powers
Barb 14
Sader 20
Wiz 19
WD 14
Nec 12
Monk 13
DH 15
For Crusader, 8 out of 20 Ethereal Legendary powers are from shields. To quote Wudijo “with crappy offhand power”.
Lucky you! I am rank 6 hardcore solo and its just sad I am not able to participate in group play because I do not have one with messerschmidts 
It could be worse. You could be playing DH and rolling into a pool that has affixes for knife skills that literally can’t be used because you’d have to have a melee weapon equipped and there are no such ethereals. Seriously, I’ve gotten 9 of the things with either the +Impale or +Fan of Knifes legendary affixes that might have been interesting for Shadow set, but are completely unusable and have to go straight to Haedrig to give me even more DB I don’t need.
No i dont think DH is worse than crusader where half the affixes are for shields and even a lot of the weapon affixes are completely useless such as blessed shield. You might think “oh condemns a great build blessed shield is a great build” but they are completely non viable since like 6 seasons ago.
But, at the very least they are usable. These two affixes literally cannot be used because they’re on a ranged weapon and only provide benefit with a melee weapon equipped.
But to your point, I totally understand where you’re coming from. I actually built an old school Capt America blessed shield LOD crusader this season to try it out. It’s a touch faster than Marauder’s DH which is basically like watching grass grow, but man, for a “tanky” Crusader build, it was squishier than anything I have ever made with my DH. A big chunk of those Crusader affixes simply cannot be put into a viable end-game build.
If we think about it, the overwhelming majority of possible ethereals are going to be useless. Why? Because in order to use them, they must 1) roll one of the two weapon affixes your build uses and 2) ideally, roll good stats on the ethereal itself. For example, my UE6 DH’s Windforce must have +12 Discipline in addition to the affix for either Dawn or Yang’s or it’s unusable. If the ethereal rolls some affix other than the weapon affixes you need, equipping it will almost certainly be a net loss of power due to the loss of the legendary affix’s multiplier.
The D3 designers worked themselves into a pretty terrible position over the years. Basically anything they try and do at this point only exposes just how broken the system has become and it’s need for extensive renovation because they made the same so dependent on these ludicrously large multipliers on only a few favorite skills. They kept telling themselves that T16 was the goal to design to and parking some builds there while simultaneous giving literally orders of magnitude better buffs to certain builds such that they could push down ever higher GRs, including ignoring the traditional trade-offs of speed, or ease of use, or ease of gearing for power, so now you hold down the right mouse button with things like WW, TR, or Strafe while anything that actually relies on combos or positioning just falls behind… I’d better stop there, I could rant on these issues for a long time =)
They are as useable as fan of knives dagger or caltrops bow
I havent found any with a mortal drama affix. I do have a LOT of mess. reaver ones. Maybe even my most common find.
I got a nice ivory shield one for AoV. Im doing both lazy and hard cast foh. Its not bad. I hit rank 25 on a joke attempt.
Then I use the mess reaver one for lon bombardment. I have a couple ok furnance ones but nothing id push with.
You found messerschmidts on “the redeemer”???
Thats another thing i didnt add – certain affixes tend to match with certain ethereals.
Yeah if you look at my profile its there i think. Or filter the leaderboard for no 6 piece set.
That thing is godly I want it. Except on hardcore
Out of the roughly 31 ethereal weapons found for my monk, exactly 2 have had Flying Dragon power. 1 has had Vengeful Wind (which I am using; I also have kept one of the Dragon ones for pushing if I want to.) The vast majority have had some form of 7-sided strike modifiers - something like 15-20 of them.
It does seem, based on my empirical anecdote, that whatever the free set is, the ethereal has a higher chance to drop for that. It may not be right but it has appeared that way.
Interesting thought. Not sure I can relate, as I started with Barb this season, and, you know, there are lots of skills you can use with IK.
Continuing with Wiz on SC now, well… do we have any weapons for Vyr other than Chantodo? Can’t recall any, and Chantodo isn’t on the eth affix list. No wonder I had all sorts of various rubbish for quite some time.
And yeah, the only DH bow my Wiz got has LGF affix, of course. Useful indeed.