Thorns Mage - Possible or not?

From Rathma Rats, altered with Boyarsky’s Chip + Yellow Gem in weapon + Contamination Mage

https://maxroll.gg/d3/d3planner/90451187

Do you think this build is viable ?

How would you improve it ?

IMHO, if you plan to go any kind of Thorns for Necro, you most likely would have to include Aberrant Animator Passive and Spear of Jairo.

If your idea is to just use it in some kind of speed set-up, Boyarski’s Chip or not it most likely would work, but other options (without Thorns) most likely would outperform it.

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Agree on Aberrant Animator, but is Spear of Jairo mandatory, if you have better sources of damage increase ?

There you go, Updated version of older build, season 17 solo meta so it does show at the in-game leaderboards if you want to see it there.

icy-veins (dot) com/d3/necromancer-thorns-command-skeletons-solo-build-with-lod

Technically not. But you won’t get your full damage output for Thorns, if that is your main idea.

@PonuryMnich:
The Command Skeleton off-hand (Bone Ringer) got nerfed in the meantime, no one even tried to play with it anymore after the nerf (it used to buff damage endlessly). Especially considering it was one of the most fishy builds there is.
Technically, now it’s easier to find to find a “one floor map” where that “old” build could shine.

Also, it seems Isend just wants to spice up Rats, not to use the Command Skeleton build, if I understood correctly.

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Do it as an academic exercise, but the method of playing thorns necro was nerfed into the ground because it was massively fish-heavy and Blizz said they didn’t like the playstyle. You basically needed a 100% progression first map with almost no chokepoints, and a Juggernaut elite at the very start, preferably a ghost or something as mobile as possible in order to stack infinite thorns stacks. And you still needed a conduit pylon in the middle/towards the end to get big progression. And then the rift guardian added layers of fishing on top of that… Leave Game if it wasn’t Blighter. (This was back in the day before you could close a rift, obvs!)

I played it a few times. Never very well. But I watched an EU guy who streamed pushing and it was perhaps the worst Menu Simulator I’ve ever seen. Very little actual play time. And the rifts he did start, if he accidentally dropped stacks halfway through a floor it was immediate Leave Game, too.

But I wish OP much patience and luck if they want to give it a whirl!

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I’d rather imagine a new build using Skeletal Mage + Thorns.
Creation of new items allowed.

Yes, pure imagination exercise.
How would you improve the player experience, so it’s fun to play ?

Yes !

Only mages.

I’m thinking of an upcoming proposal.

Basically if you had to use Skeletal Mage with Thorns, what would be the main problems to overcome, in order to design an item that would work with Contamination Mages ?
(In order to make good usage of this under-used rune)

Let’s say we use Spear of Jairo, I suppose the DPS would be lower than the non-Jairo version, nope ?
(Unless a new mechanic boosts the Jairo version)

I’m listening your proposals of builds.