This "community" has reared it ugly face once again

[MicroRNA-1507]

@Phoenix-1330

The Barb detractors only had thoughts and feelings, and when that got shot down they moved to accusing Barbs of being trolls and aggressors in the threads.

Blanket statements like this are almost invariably false. The OP is not accurate either. I think it is best not to label an entire community based on the actions/words of a subset.

I speak for myself and no one else. I think that other people at times will post similar opinions to what I have. If you notice when I write, I frequently use “few”, “many”, and “subset”.

I have the sense (and correct me if I am wrong) that you feel I am one of those who only post opinions and feelings; however, many have termed me “table guy”. What does the tables include? Facts from Blizzards leaderboards that anyone can check. For as much criticism that I have received, no one has stated in column 3 row 2 your number was wrong. Rest assured, if I made a factual error in these tables, people would let me know. I have annotated some tables to reflect a class is being nerfed in patch 2.6.7 (Wizards and necromancers) and provide the actual data (and a note of an estimate of power).

[Meteorblade-2266]

I like facts and figures too.
See if you can find faults in these equations…

148 - 7 > 140 - 7
147 - 7 > 140 - 7

[Prokahn-1764]

Enough guys. Let’s stop these discussions.

Lamentation will come at 0% most likely as our past experience shows.

Lets go back to our “toxic” forum and stay there.

[Prokahn-1764]

@Dartok-1460

I also highly doubt Blizzard nerfs things because of 1 player. If you believe this to be true please find me a blue post or get a blue to post that it is true.

FYI only:
Not trying to extend this discussion, but this one is in from the other thread. The person brought one of Don Vu’s post. Original link is here:

Diablo 3 Forums

I highlighted the lines where the observations can be made.

@Prokahn-1764

So your own answer with your own quotes. They do look at the top clears and they do tend to balance considering the top. Therefore, if a 10000 barb clears say 140 and at that time wiz was doing what 143-145? They may nerf the barb. Now the situation is Wiz is actually about to clear 150. Add their nerf they are capable of 147 on top.

Where does the 7GR nerf to barb leaves? In the dust. ONCE again

Don Vu posted this 2 years ago:

" We don’t just look at the Greater Rift level and time cleared. We look at paragon, legendary gems, augments, stats – just a whole slew of data from our Business Intelligence team – and do internal tests of our own. We have a target Greater Rift level with specific paragon, legendary gems, augments, stats, etc. derived from the top clears on Live and PTR and we try to hit that target by tweaking changes over the course of the PTR

We have a target Greater Rift level with specific paragon, legendary gems, augments, stats, etc. derived from the top clears on Live and PTR and we try to hit that target by tweaking changes over the course of the PTR

derived from the top clears on Live and PTR and we try to hit that target

As we claim multiple times, balancing around the top clears (1% of the playerbase), leave the average players (99% of the player base) in an extremely unbalanced state. Buff numbers must be set using average numbers instead of the top clears. Top clears tend to show erroneous behaviour, which underestimates the buff levels for average playerbase.

[Jako-1213]

No one has blamed a certain streamer for the nerf.

People have just rightfully pointed out the streamer is wrong and makes thing worse by making incendiary comments like he did and continues to do.

[Siladil-1652]

I leave for a year or two and this is what happens. I might have to return and start revoking Barb cards again.

[serro-1366]

SillyDilly, we need your help. Your fresca/orange juice faux-gina is in dire need to soothe the masses of this forum.

[Manowar-2684]

@MicroRNA-1507

many have termed me “table guy”

Everyone else calls you just “The Troll”

[Free-1746]

@Siladil-1652

I might have to return

Get off the damn stairs.

[Jako-1213]

Can’t revoke Barb cards from a dead end.

[jay-1401]

There are always going to be people that don’t understand why others don’t roll over and take one in the tailpipe, because that’s what a good little beta does. Right OP?

You won’t find these people trying to inject themselves into a productive meaning game mechanics discussion, those sorts of things aren’t safe for people like the OP. They will wholeheartedly climb on a high horse and call out others for being passionate though. This OP is a fine example of this disgusting mindset.

Grow a pair and write what you really want to, that you are glad barbs got nerfed. (not you Tune)

These forums can be toxic, not because of the barb community but because the members of all communities who troll, misrepresent, and gloat when something gets taken away from others.

[Cleric-11444]

blizzard always “balances” based on outlier clears like this and whiny children, u new?

[Tee-11103]

The smartest people can also do the stupidest things. Some just like doing it over and over again.

We are no different, really. Always have that hope when ptr comes out with the right patch notes then gets the rug pulled from underneath.

This is nothing new to the vets around here. Just another rodeo