[Theory] Auction House in RoS

Thank you very much that you explained this problem.
I said not about Team Fortress, I said about RMAH for trading cards of the big amount of games on Steam, which - by your opinion - can be used for the massive money laundering and - hence - must to attract attention of the US government, but no. So - in this theory of ideal AH - I made the system for real money like Valve has on Steam (for real money one can buy only gold using the same system as was in classic for trading mats - i.e. without even viewing nicks of players and with auto-mode). Moreover, I suggested also additional limitation for the withdraw of real money (one can spend them only on the products of Blizzard). Such system can be also used for money laundering even without AH just by buying and selling official products of Blizzard, but it is not used for this.
Hence, counclusion: I solved problem of Blizzard with RMAH by 2 different ways.

I said already:

  1. it is only your opinion, it is not opinion of ones who want AH;
  2. no problems with your opinion: “do not like AH - do not use it”. :wink:

What amount of time do you need now to find primal? :smile:
And yes: on the farming of ACT3 players needed much less time than 50 hours. Say, 8 hours or even less.

You are wrong. They added pity timer IN RoS. When droprate of legs was significantly increased (which was decreased about in 2-3 times at release of RoS). And - with this significant increase of droprate - they found bug in their drop-system that do not allow to take at least 1 leg during a long time, so they added their pity timer of 2 hours while - on CBT and OBT of RoS - the usual time for taking one leg was about 20-30 minutes. And in classic players wrote that they did not see legs during very big amount of time (months), but devs ignored this moment. I.e.: drop system in D3 is already bugged. Now - if you look at the bug-forum - there are additional proves of this, including bugs with recepies that can’t be solved during years. And now there are primals with the same low droprate as legs in classic. Of course, some players do not see them very big amount of time though you still think that anyone can obtain anything. Nope. Even with the true random there are no guarantees for this. But in D3 with have bugged pseudo random.

Really? You made 2 mistakes already - about pity timer and about time for taking legs in classic. I corrected you.

You need perfect gear, not only perfect piece of it.
And yes, I repeat again: AH gives guarantees and you can see the price of items = can simulate needed actions to take it. Without AH you have no guarantees because of RANDOM. Bugged pseudo random.

You did not see, I saw multiple threads about returning AH back. And now, in D4, trade is back. Because fans asked for it. Not AH because devs do not understand what is wrong with it.

What amount of time do I need to play? I already played 3k+ hours in D3. Do I need to play 30k hours? Or 300k hours? And for what? To see the evident fact that D3 has bugged pseudo random. I already saw this.

Because it is the HOLE for Black Markets for trading for real money.

And both (D4, not D3) have trade. Very funny.

2 moments:

  1. if you will find at least one such item, though you can find nothing during many many hours due to either random or bugged random;
  2. if you will find 2 identical items, the second one will be garbage while - with trade or AH - you can exchange it on something useful.

Your dreams are faaaar away from real life. I already said this.

Because I am talking about top items - primals.
In the classic was also the rain. Of yellow items.

Mythic items are the top items that was adjusted by the parameters of ancient items. And devs did not say that they are still there. So we do not know now about them.

Hm. D3 2.0. Again tons of garbage.

You are wrong. It is impossible.
Suggest to devs to check this moment in the one of seasons using AH (ideal version of this thread) as the season buff. So you will can see that you are fully wrong.

You do not know about this at all. Players are speaking in a party using additional utilities for their voice. They do not need even chat. Though players also use game chat for talking about many things. It seems that you are playing in the different version of D3 than all other players.

It is very bad idea - to force communication of people in the situations where much more preferable to do not do this.

I repeat again and again: I do not see big enough difference between AH and trade excepting convenience. Your main argument against AH is the rain of legendaries so the game is not needed in AH (and in trade too). But - in the case of D4 - you made difference between them using your idea of communication of people as the main argument. Very strange situation.

Does Blizz understand that 1-to-1 interaction is the direct way to Black Markets with trading for real money? I think that they do not understand this. If they removed all BiS items from trading, so such trading is useless at all. But - if there are still rare items - they will be selled for real money. This means removing of trade at all as it was in classic with AH.

It is again your dreams. In D3 devs can’t provide such system, but you think that in D4 they will can provide it. Good luck with your dreams.

Do you compared D3 with MMO game? You are “genius”!

You know exactly nothing about random and statistics. Moreover, you know even less about random in D3. That’s why you wrote these things which are faaar away from the real situation in this game. Visit bug-forum, for example.

I know that they are without primals because they just do not have them, though you repeat again and again that they must have them (after time sink and so on). Very funny.

Argument of one who know nothing about random.

Where will they play with such perfect gear and when?
In non-season while new season was started? Cool.

I talked about times of patches 1.0.5 or 1.0.7.

There is the choice to use AH or not = there is optionality.
It is like the choice to play on softcore or hardcore. Though softcore gives the advantage, there are people that play on hardcore. The same thing is with AH. In the current thread. You can use it - your results will be in one main rankings. You can do not use it - your results will be in two rankings (the main one and another one - for ones who playing without AH). And it is your choice - to be in both rankings or to be only in one of them. Like profiles on softcore and hardcore - it is your choice: to have both or to have only one of them (softcore). :wink:

Was. :smile:

Nope. They are legendaries with the red frame. :smile:

Really? Without providing argumentation with facts and so on? Cool.

I think that you never saw a book. :smile:

Already 7. :smile:

Exactly, I think that devs repeat their step from D3 and in D4 too.

Yes, it is. They can do not use AH, but they will use it anyway.
Arguments like yours are very funny, because you said that all players will use AH if it will be introduced (including yourself) though you are against AH. Thanks for demonstration of this moment (and for devs too).

I just provide to you one very nice example of people of this forum who uses dislikes. Look at this thread:

I saw many threads with the ideas like this one that were visited by your dislikers with the “arguments” and behavior they demonstrated here. But! The post of blue one and in this thread there are no one of your dislikers, though even now idea of it has only 13 likes. Anyone who viewing this forum with open eyes, see this.

Now, in D3 RoS, even top primals can’t provide enough profit for that to be P2W (in comparison with the random in rifts and paragon).

You are wrong. Especially because I already suggested 2 different (and simple) solutions for that to fix the problem with bots “once and for all”. And especially because I closed in this theory of ideal AH the hole with Black Markets. Hence you just do not read the first post of this tread, but you have complaints against it. Nice.