The guy has elites named after him in D3, how is this surprising? Also, you already know he’s making way more than he spends from viewers. He’s feeding their addiction more than his own.
It would be funny if , after spending $200 in a week, a cooldown timer with Gambling Addiction Hotline pops up on your next purchase.
They’re almost two decades behind the times. Everquest II did something similar way back in 2005 where they implemented a /pizza command which took you to a tie-in promotion with Pizza Hut…
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We are hearing a lot the 5-star Leg Gem. in this thread. A technical question: 4-star Leg Gem has a much bigger probability to drop. The difference here are the resources needed to upgrade the 4-Star in a 5-Star.
Instead of waiting in eternity (for us that do not intend to pay the equivalent of 0.5 - 1 carat REAL Diamond). it is not better to start with 1/2/3 Star Gems and farm intensively for resources required to upgrade?
People that pay real money for virtual Gems are simply suffering from an addiction similar to gambling.
They are to be pitied.
Quinn mostly plays PoE these past few years. Kind of surprised to see him playing Immortal, to be honest. The money spent thing seems to be a gimmic to draw in viewers, and controversy, which generates more viewers!
I find him to be a bit abrasive. I like his wife’s twitter though and the kiddos are super cute.
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Yeah. You’re right. On re-reading, I get that. I edited in an apology for my tone to the original comment.
It’s called protesting, and yes, people sometimes spend lots of money to make a point. It his money and his right to spend it to protest if he’d like.
It’s a pretty juicy carrot on a very long stick, isn’t it? Well, Quin’s putting his money where his mouth is to prove just how outrageously predatory this is. Some 14 year old kid is going to max out his parents’ credit card chasing this carrot because he doesn’t understand math and is addicted to the game. It’s dangerous.
Gambling with in-game currency is very different from gambling with real money. If you’ve ever watched someone literally break themselves in a casino, you’ll appreciate just how terrible it is. I had an uncle like that. He met a woman and wanted to impress her as a high roller. He emptied the bank account, remortgaged the paid off house, bled the teenage kids’ college savings accounts dry, and maxed out the credit cards before my aunt left him. The danger is real and so are the consequences.
I’m not opposed to a little social pressure on the whales, but they’re not the root cause. The root cause is the guy who makes the offer, not the guy who takes it. In the Faustian bargain, Faust is the victim. He succumbed to temptation. The devil is the villain for exploiting it.
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yeah well EQ2 didnt charge you by the slice only to tell you the toppings would be randomized and if you didnt like them feel free to drop another few $$$ and try again
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That is such a bizarre feature nowadays - Patreon, Twitch, etc…
I always thought that kind of revenue should have better regulation.
Ex. Money donate on Twitch should have only be spent in QoL to streaming better content.
While the weekly/monthly earnings from subscriptions, views and engagement should be the streamer “salary”.
Which is why I wish there was a warning banner when you exceed some (government?) set amount.
You’re not doing anything wrong, you’re just not in the end game yet. If you kept playing for free in the end game, you would just keep seeing the equivalent of whites and blues all day non-stop everyday. You can pretend that that would be fun and interesting and you would keep doing it, but we all know that’s a lie. You would either quit or open your wallet. That’s what this game is designed for, using very potent and well researched psychological attacks – and that’s the problem.
It’s not a bad idea. Especially with the bulk small value purchases. The nickle-and-dime scheme adds up.
He played PoE because it’s the most interesting arpg thing there is right now
He is lurking on and reacting to every D4 blog post just like rhykker or Mr llama
And he doesn’t really need a gimmick to draw people in he has his ~10k viewers on a regular basis even if he is playing some old dedective game or reacts to cringe YouTube
It’s just a phenomenon in the scene right now so obviously he joins in
Quin didn’t actually spend any money doing this because the increase in viewership/subs etc will completely cover the money he spends and then some.
I think people still don’t comprehend how much streamers make a month. Years ago when Quin was only pulling 3-4k viewers he said his best month was something like $50,000. Now that he’s at what? 17,000+ average viewers? He’s probably averaging $100,000 a month. I might even be lowballing it because I don’t know his sponsors, etc.
and when the 
hits the fan Blizzards lawyers will deflect blame claiming the streamers are the problem the viewers they see them spending all that money etc etc and try to emulate their heroes
its NOT our fault all we did was create the game we didnt force players into spending so much $$ its the streamers that caused them to go insane with their wallets
What streamers do is write it off on their taxes. It’s just a tax write off to them. They’re not actually losing any money. Business expense.
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what’s the max level on DI- 60?
after all those things are bought, I would laugh if they do the same thing they did to D3 after the AH, and raise the item levels to 70.
I’m pretty sure they’re following the Lost Ark model. That would mean new content comes out to make the old gear obsolete frequently.
Protesters normally don’t do the thing they are against. Yes, it is their money, and yes this could be a form of protest, but it doesn’t stop it from being attention seeking cringe.
Demonstrating how P2W D:I is something else, BUT we already have a written article about this. They don’t need to go to the point where they spend $10k. Most of us won’t even go past $500… We all know how terrible the RNG is from D3. They could’ve protested by playing a different game or a direct competitor’s game.
I will take a written article over a youtube video any day of the week. Sadly, or luckily, not everyone are like me, and for a bunch of people, if you want to reach them, it happens through video.
They probably do that too. It is not either/or.
People are notoriously bad at understanding probabilities.
Putting a dollar value on can help some.
Thats not how it works. A write off just lowers your taxable income, so he wont pay taxes on that $10k. Essentially he got a 30-50% (or whatever taxes are in NZ) discount on that $10k, because its a business expense.
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