No, mah dude. That’s not what happened.
What happened was, you appeared on the Barb forums and started dropping “guides” like this one: Diablo 3 Forums
4 posts down, S4 calls you out for blatantly copy-pasting Dakkon’s build. But more importantly, you posted it in a forum where there already existed a complete MOTE EQ guide that was also stickied.
Here’s you getting called out for that: Diablo 3 Forums
And here’s Dakkon’s original build: Diablo 3 Forums
Originally, he never wrote the build out in the forums except in fragments scattered through various threads, but we had already identified it: Diablo 3 Forums
The year before, you tried it with this one: Diablo 3 Forums
Before that, you did the same thing with Dakkon’s “Trillions” Physical R6 Slam build, and Arch (Ulma), a Barb expert and one of the best players on the NA server, called you out for it.
So I tried to mediate and find some middle ground. Here’s what I posted:
I haven’t seen you post before, so I’m giving you the benefit of the doubt. But the friction you are encountering (and will likely continue to encounter) in this forum stems from the fact that this is the place for Barb info. I don’t mean that as a proclamation of loyalty or e-peen; between the math heads, the creative types, and the sheer amount of testing and build refinement that happens on this forum, not to mention the developer outreach that starts here, there’s no better source for Barb info–in fact, there may be no better place for D3 info, period.
In comparison, Diablofans doesn’t hold up. If you’re using that site as the hub for your Diablo knowledge, you’re way behind the curve.
Then there’s the way this forum reacts to people who seem to be, for lack of a better term, cashing in on a Twitch account or YT channel. Most content makers are trying to reach the broadest possible audience, and that’s the most casual demographic of a given game. This forum, on the hand, caters to the experienced player, and tries its best to route casual or new players into specific threads for help. So, what you’re showing us is nothing new, and the reaction you’re likely to get is some variation on, So what?
Again, not trying to start an argument. My goal is to establish how this forum tends to work, what it does best, and explain what kind of reaction you’re likely to get, particularly from experienced players.
That was our first conversation. Things only went downhill from there, because you kept at it–plugging away for your YT videos and guides in a forum where the best, most complete guides were already written and established.
For the Barb community, the bottom line was that you kept showing up to post builds we already knew about, builds we had already codified in guides, builds we helped players with each and every day, and builds we were routinely topping the leaderboards with.
To be clear: You were copy-pasting builds created by others, then directing people to your videos and “guides,” and you were doing it in the forum that had written the best, most complete guides out there.
Talk about changing opinions? Brother, if you don’t see how that’s going to generate some friction, we are lost.
By the end, you started pulling stuff like this: Diablo 3 Forums
I dunno, man. I love your Necro videos. I was really happy when you covered our Buff Proposal. I think it’s good to have folks who are passionate about the game, and I even tune into your podcast now and then. I wish you much success, but I don’t think the approach you took with regards to the Barb community here has been the best. I’d like to see that rift healed, but calling us elitist isn’t getting the job done.
It’s not elitism to know your community is producing the best, most complete guides out there, to know your community does everything it can to help new and casual players and tailor content to the best, most hardcore crowd. It’s not elitism when your forum produces more analysis of game mechanics than any other, and when folks in the know routinely call the Barb community home, it’s not elitism to know why.