Wanting offline mode for D4 is like wanting your crush to have the same feelings for you = wishful thinking…
And if the dev’s postpone the game as much as a day because they have to talk about “make d4 offline” treads. I will say only this…
AIN’T NOBODY GOT TIME FOR THAT 
Revoking the licence to play the game is not the same thing as being banned from the server, which is what I was clarifying.
Also like I pointed out: The EULA doesn’t get to decide what the law is, even if you agree to it.
So to say “so therefore you have no legal right to modify it, without the developer’s permission” is inaccurate.
You have the legal right to modify the software on your own computer, Blizzard just doesn’t have to keep letting you connect to the server if you break the EULA.
Regardless of what you meant, saying legal right does imply that Blizzard can take legal action against you if you modify your game files.
Which is not true.
But, can we have an offline mode for diablo 4 please ?
Everyone clearly wants it.
Yes, it is. Go read the EULA. They specifically use the verbiage “license” to refer to your ability to play their games.
A snippet:
Grant of License. If you accept and comply with the terms of this Agreement, Blizzard will grant, and you will receive, a limited, revocable, non-sub licensable, and non-exclusive license to use the Platform subject to the “License Limitations,” set forth in Section 1.C below, as follows:
- You may install applicable components or features of the Platform (including the Games) on one or more computers or mobile devices under your legitimate control.
I used the term “legal” because that is the general term being used here. Legal – Blizzard Entertainment will take you to a page containing various user agreements, in which the page is titled “BLIZZARD LEGAL”. Just because I used the term “legal right” does not imply I meant Blizzard is going to take you to court or come to your house and confiscate your things. I think you have a skewed definition of the word.
It’s actually a very good example.
In this case your crush already said that she’s gotten married. Of course you can try all you want to convince her to ditch her husband to date you but well…
Maybe, but it’s also like wanting us to stop asking for offline mode.
I never really beat around the bush in stating digital issues like this are a wild west. The consumer rights issue is important because when our only choice is to not buy, companies aren’t exactly presenting a fair proposition. For example, the ToS you brought up? We don’t see those when we buy the box at the store or when initiating a download. It’s after we’ve bought the game and installed it. Depending on where you got it, if you choose to decline the terms, you’re SOL on a refund (and again a temptation for piracy). It’s also not really a secret people skip past that crap because they want to play.
What we’re ultimately lacking is an organized pushback by players to get laws in play to guarantee access to games we’ve bought and the freedom to do whatever with that after the fact, including trading away digital copes when we’re done with them, as long as it doesn’t involve the usual copyright issues like trying to rename D3 and push it as your own game. It’s not something that’ll be cheap to do, either, since we basically have to buy politicians to lobby in our favor. Further good luck in convincing a bunch of old people who lived half their life without video games even existing taking the concern seriously. There have been pushes to preserve retro games as an accessible art form, but the industry has fought tooth and nail to prevent that even though you can guarantee whatever profits old games do make nowadays aren’t going back to the people that originally made them. All this further has ties to lootboxes/gacha/microtransactions since it’s yet more “leasing” things that can be arbitrarily removed or modified without consent.
Otherwise, there are far more famous gamer youtubers out there who have attempted to tackle this issue with greater detail than I’ve managed in these few posts. “Games as a service” is a sham that is by no means for our benefit. It’s about control and typically taking what little we have away.
haha. this. 
@beefhammer – finally as in stop asking for it
Botters plus blind/deaf/finicky players are crying. HAHAHA. I like it. But this kind of player will never listen. I just flag and ignore them.
Gotcha. Frankly though, if I was in charge here, I would lock all offline threads and start anning those asking for it. It’s not going to happen. All the reasons have been put out there by Blizzard in the past. It’s not an option they would entertain considering. So all these threads do is clutter this place up and help sow discord.
Why would you want to play offline anyways?
Makes 0.1 sense
There are several threads that illustrates why some people want to play offline; from their perspective it makes complete sense.
Why would you want to play on line?
Makes .001 sense
I love it when triggered people try talking down to people. Yes you are triggered otherwise you would have never posted this. Go get your binkie and find a safe space. Because you clearly need to calm down and remember what you were like younger being told no.
Again, I see no reason, nor has Blizzard given us a reason, to think that we will ever lose access to the games we purchase from them. Again I point to the example of the nearly 20 years strong Diablo 2, released in June of 2000 and we still have access to the game.
Your computer’s operating system is more likely to stop supporting a game of that age before Blizzard does. But I realize not all developers are the corporate giant Blizzard is.
While I do agree in general with what you’re saying about consumer rights, and having guaranteed access to games, there has to be other ways to accomplish that without implementing an offline mode which severely compromises the game’s integrity. Or at least, a better way to protect the code with an offline mode. If that’s possible then yes, I support offline mode, just not at the cost of it then leading to ruining my experience online. At that point, offline mode is more of an immediate detriment to my experience right now, than the tin-foil hat “one of these days” doomsday theories. This isn’t 1999 anymore, but thieves always seem to find a way to crack the vault open, no matter how good security gets. It’s best just not to even go there. Again the most secure code is the kind you can’t get to.
I would also say that you seem to have a misunderstanding of the term “Games as a Service” (GaaS). It as an umbrella term that encompasses multiple types of continued revenue and monetization methods after a game’s initial release. These methods include: Game Subscriptions (like WoW), Subscription Services (like Microsoft Game Pass for Xbox), Cloud Gaming / Gaming on Demand (Google Stadia or Gamefly), Microtransactions (League of Legends), and Season Passes (Destiny, Rocket League).
(Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Games_as_a_service)
So you’re saying ALL of those monetization methods are a scam? Because GaaS encompasses all of those types. You might as well throw WoW in there as being a sham, then.
Oh and, Blizzard has always allowed mods to be used with WoW, and it’s an online only game under the GaaS model. Interesting.
The bottom line: Diablo 4 doesn’t need offline mode, it doesn’t need mods, and everyone needs to stop asking. I mean you can, it just won’t do any good.
To clarify, I do not want offline mode, so your statement is invalid!
would be nice if a blue could say something. since there are so many threads about lack of offline mode.
say something like "we hear you…and are reconsidering our decisions etc. ".
Although I agree with the fact that there are valid arguments for an offline mode, I suspect that Blizzard’s cost benefit analysis suggested that for their financial interest that they are not going to change their mind relative to the PC version.
Blizzard employees do visit the forum even if they do not post. I was surprised to see how frequently (weekends/late nights) that some of the key “blues” visit the forum. They know that a subpopulation (I am not commenting on the precise amount. It could be few or many) wants an offline option. I suspect that given the history of D3 on the PC that they are not going to reconsider.
There are valid arguments for it, of course. I understand the reasoning why people want it. Blizzard hasn’t given us any information into their decisions, so we are left to assume why they made that decision.
My point is, the same arguments have been hashed out for offline mode over and over. And, like you said, I’m sure Blizzard is well aware by now that people want it.
So either they will change their mind, which is unlikely but still in the realm of possibility, or they won’t. Either way, I feel like the topic has been discussed enough, and it’s time for people to move on to other topics.