Single Player Offline Option

Your facts ate not wrong, but this is something I believe, with 100% certainty, they will not change their direction on.

I tend to believe things when I can see it and no sooner. Developer talk can change over anything.

You’ll be waiting a long time. I have no intention to get the game before at least 1 year to see how it develops. Without an offline option, I’m kinda iffy on it.

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Except this is Blizzards stance on protecting their games and promoting their social ecosystem. Offline simply will not happen, at least while the game is current and D5 has not yet been released.

Then when it releases, I’ll have my answer then, won’t I? Until then, I don’t take anything said or shown as the final product. Even D3 changed rapidly from its first showing to release, in terms of how runes worked, PvP worked, skill trees (and the removal of said tree). I’ll simply wait and see how it looks upon release.

But if they ask for feedback, without specifying the feedback desired, I’ll express my feedback about offline mode.

Sure thing. You’ll be there day one.

And I’ll express my feedback on the cheaters.

If saying that helps you sleep better at night, but that doesn’t make what you said true.

Be sure to express it about all the cheaters in the online only games as well, you don’t want to sound biased. Oh wait, I forgot online supposedly can’t cheat, so the cheaters are just making clever use of resources as the developers left for them to use.

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Nobody ever said you can’t cheat in an online-only game. I don’t know why people keep claiming that.

What you can’t do is pirate the game or modify server side game files (character, gear, progress, etc.) Cheats that run on a player’s PC will always be a thing (bots, overlays, etc.)

What people said is that at least offline gets rid of PART of the cheating.

EDIT because apparently I forgot to use words. :tired_face:

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And improving security and detection would help get rid of part of the cheating without stripping away options players like to use. It seems like a drastic way to attempt to fix something is to rip something out.

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How exactly would you do a bet between two strangers on the internet? The likelihood of D4 getting an offline mode at some point is surely high enough that I wouldnt mind taking such a chance if there was a decent payoff.

Is it really a meaningful problem if someone somewhere cheats in their offline game?
I would love to stop all cheating, but it just seems like such a non-issue. Stopping cheaters online is extremely more important.

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Oh no there are cheaters in online play. Look at the rampant use of bots. 2 wrongs don’t make a right though.

Well what do you want to wager? If I win you can’t post on the forum anymore. What do you want if you win?

It doesn’t matter I’ll take the bet, because I won’t lose. There is zero percent chance that d4 will launch with an offline mode.

And as far as paying up, well both have to be honorable.

It is if they crack the game files and see up their own private servers or steal IP.

No, it does not. But it also doesn’t make sense to punish a set of players by removing options they enjoy when working on increasing security and cheat detection can solve the issue instead. It’s not right punishing an entire group of players because of the actions of a few.

Which has happened with online only games like World of Warcraft, Ultima Online and Everquest and more. Blaming offline only is not an accurate statement.

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No option was removed from d4. Off-line play was never an option so it can’t be removed. It’s like trying to quit from somewhere you don’t work. Not possible.

Again, you’re taking it out of context. The series started with an offline option, which Blizzard removed.

Now stop trying to skew away from the other things I said, or do you have no logical means to argue that so try diversion tactics?

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Haha. Funny.
No. Money would be fine. Or something of similar value.

That has nothing to do with cheating however.

You can potentially make private servers with and without an offline mode. Since the offline mode would be singleplayer only, it would not have a bunch of the multiplayer code in it. Making it as hard to steal that part as it is without an offline mode.

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I don’t care about 2 games that were released 20 and 24 years ago, they are irrelevant in this discussion. We ARE talking about Diablo 4 which has never had and never will have an offline option. So, and I’m going to type slowly for you, THEY. NEVER. REMOVED. OFF-LINE. FROM. DIABLO 4. Do you understand? It wasn’t removed from Diablo 4 because it was never there. We’re not talking about playing Diablo and Diablo 2 offline, we’re talking about Diablo 4. We’re not talking about playing the Diablo series offline, we’re talking about Diablo 4. Diablo 4 is all that matters in this discussion because that’s what you want to change and that’s what you’re making disingenuous statements about.

You seem to be misreading what I wrote. I’ll clarify it for you. I’m talking about the series itself and how changes were made in that series I don’t believe were correct ones to make. So yes, they did remove offline options from the Diablo series, starting in Diablo 3 and, so far, continuing in Diablo 4. Personally I hope they change their minds.

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Cus it makes cheating easier?