So I hope these offline threads are past history pfoeh
Doubt it. If asked for feedback, I’ll give back honest feedback based on what I know so far. You don’t have to like it, they’ll still get it.
This why i had buy the switch version so could play offline, lagging in single player games not fun at all, up here in Canada ISPs are dog %#$# at best, and live service games as such pain theses days
Only a real solution if you already own that console. I took the traditional route and just found something else that suited what I was looking for, despite that fact I have really liked the lore in the Diablo series. I’m hoping D4 won’t make the same mistakes D3 made, which includes going online only.
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Not going to happen. It’s feedback to Actiblizz
What I am saying is that if you have a mod making tool that players can get it to do the impossible. Which is allow them to take their mods to the online version of the game. Then that would mean that there is no way of giving a 100% protection to the online mode with offline mode. Because players will figure out a way of getting those modded gear or other things that ones like you would think that it is impossible to do. More so if there are more than enough benefits for doing so.
You own words above say that the only way to get the offline cheats to the online version is to be able to migrate the offline characters to the online portion. I hear others say that D3 on NS does not allow for offline characters to be migrated to the online version. But still you had players with modded gear in season 18 on the NS. Mind explaining that Mr. Guru.
You are stating it as if it is the only way to get those offline cheats to the online portion.
There is more to it than just cheating. There is still the piracy issue as well. I haven’t seen any D3 pirate emulation servers that have the entire game all the way to Season 19. The reason is online only backed up with only having a limited portion of the game on our computer.
Again if something like no offline mode is a deal breaker. Where the majority won’t buy D4 without it. Then at Blizzcon they would’ve been heard Boo’ing the devs when they clearly stated no offline mode.
What do you really think that if something is a deal breaker where the majority won’t buy it if it is not included they won’t make their voices heard at the announcement of the game. I am sure that they would do just that.
It showed that the majority there it wasn’t a deal breaker. The majority present along with many others not present really don’t care about offline mode. They only care enough to want to know if it will be supported or not. They don’t get up in arms if it is not there.
How many players that boo’d Diablo Immortal do you really think will buy it when it releases.
I said before if offline mode is a deal breaker then Blizz would’ve gotten boo’d for it like Diablo Immortal and the trailers would’ve gotten the same treatment. It would be to the point where Blizz would be forced to put it in due to the majority demanding it. Or risk no one buying D4. That is what proves to me that the majority don’t want it to the point where it is a deal breaker.
I know how I am and I know that I am not so unique that I would be the only one that would make sure that my voice is heard if there is something that is a deal breaker for me concerning a new release.
Couldn’t be a deal breaker, 20M units were sold before an offline mode was released with consoles. And yes, they would have been booed and people would have stayed away. But once again, D3 proves some people here are just wrong with their viewpoints about D3 and online only.
Like I’ve said, I get why people want it and it is my preferred way of playing, why I mostly play on my Switch, but Blizzard has made it clear they have no intentions to do so, they want to slow down the hacks and promote their social services through Bnet. Whether it is good or bad is irrelevant. I just is.
You probably haven’t seen D3 pirate servers because it’s not considered good enough to put the effort in to build them. Pirate servers for World of Warcraft, Everquest, Ultima Online and a few others, all online-only, have existed for quite some time.
Players considered them to be worth the effort. Online only isn’t pirate proof. There is no guaranteed proof that having an offline mode in D4 would allow hacks onto the server, that is merely an educated guess due to how it’s happened in the past on a 20 year old game when security measures weren’t as good as they can be now.
How good is the retention of those 20M sales? how many of those were to WoW players getting the 1 year subscription promo that had no intention of playing D3?
instead of just looking at sales, they should look at how many of those players are still playing. I sincerely doubt the number is anywhere near 20 million.
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Just as the quality of security features increase, so does the skills and tools of hackers. That is why it is a cat and mouse game as far as internet security goes for video games.
With those games you can probably make some mods, except for maybe Ultima Online. I am sure that the reason why this game hasn’t gotten the same treatment was due to lack of offline mode. Offline mode makes it a lot easier to make pirated servers.
The effort they would have to put in would be huge compared to games that have offline mode.
You have to ask another question concerning retention. What is the normal rate of retention with the majority of games that are arpgs?
Besides he is saying that a lot of players knew that they were buying an online only game. If it was a deal breaker you wouldn’t have had 20+ million in sales. This is what he is talking about.
About 1M were annual pass. But the same can be said about D2 retention. Everyone likes to claim the game is 20 years old and still running, but really how many are playing? How many were playing 5-10 years later? My guess is not alotfor the later, and more for the former just due to the nature of endgame content. We know a lot flock back for the first few weeks to month of a season.
Still going on with offline , i really dont understand why. And by making such threads you think blizzard is gonna cave in? Not gonna happen And no need for it.
It is literally still going on because people think there is a need for it.
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Looks like that wolcen game has an offline mode separate from their online mode, hopefully they can fix their game.
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So many other ARPG’s (as well as a lot of other games in a wide spread of genres) see the logic of allowing their players to be able to play without a constant internet connection being required. Hopefully Blizzard sees the sense in it as well.
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One word: encryption.
Not really sure how you interpret things because that is just a small portion you still need to do specific coding for the online portion also NS is whole different system which I don’t own Diablo 3 for and never will because I have it on PC, so that you would have to ask someone that knows how it works. But we have seasons and they have proven that normal heroes can’t be taken into Seasonal Journey unless they want to lose all the progress they have made with that character.
Again one word: encryption.
Also I want to point out that I have downloaded a server for Diablo 3 a long time ago because I wanted to see what Diablo 3 was all about however my anti-virus program at the time told that it contained a virus so I never checked it out but they do exist.
America is not the majority of gaming, get that piece of info inside of your skull mate and just because they didn’t boo doesn’t mean that everyone was on board with the idea.
You are so fixated on Diablo Immortals which has nothing to do with what we are talking about and I have to keep on telling you that is on mobile and that’s why it got boo:ed, nothing more and nothing less.
If people would’ve down voted a trailer that has nothing to do with online or offline play then people in America are f-ing braindead mate, simple as that. Many people ARE trying to make their voices heard here in the forums but instead rude people comes in and ruin it for others. Many people don’t have 2300 dollars to throw on a plane ticket and BlizzCon to make their voices heard nor do I think that BlizzCon could house all of those people.
You need to open your eyes and ears mate that’s all I can say because you are about as IQ damaged as the rest of the Americans can be right about now, all you care about is you, nothing else and it shows big time.
If you just want to create problems and argue then you can please stop responding to me because I’m getting sick and tired of your BS, you are just guessing, you have no facts, no knowledge and you keep on repeating yourself all the time like a broken record and it is annoying if you have nothing then keep your mouth shut learn that so that you can get some real life friends and maybe get a work on those social skills a bit because they are at -1.
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Now you will need to have a way for either the server or the client to decrypt it in order for the game to be played. Or the result will be you cannot play due to encryption. Wherever the decryption lies with the client or server it will make that portion a sitting duck for a smart hacker.
There are hex editors and trainers that could be created and used by smart hackers that really know what they are doing.
I just googled it about a few weeks to a month ago and I can tell you that the most that I have seen was D3 vanilla 1.0.8 patch. That is not the most up to date version of this game. I seen no other servers that had the full game RoS with necro all the way to Season 19. Nor will I anytime soon. But offline mode will guarantee that we will see it due to the fact that the entire game must be on your computer for offline mode to exist.
You really believe that Americans are the only ones that attended Blizzcon. I do believe that there are those that will come from other countries to attend Blizzcon.
Besides again it showed that it wasn’t a deal breaker. To add extra evidence, after it was announced that there will be no offline mode. The trailer for D4 wasn’t treated like Diablo Immortal’s trailer was treated when they said no plans for a PC version. Then you would’ve seen articles in gaming magazines talk about no offline mode as a deal breaker for the majority. And the proof would be in those articles that go beyond mere talk. It would have to reach the size of the Real Id on the forums debacle of years ago before Blizz would put offline mode in any game.
How many players that boo’d during the answer that said no PC version will actually buy it. How many of the down votes on the trailers for Diablo Immortal will buy it. I do believe that those that boo’d it and down voted the trailer will not be buying it. Sure it won’t hurt the sales enough to put a big dent in Blizz’s pocketbook. But still they won’t be buying it translates to it being a deal breaker.
The amount of people that can attend at Blizzcon is still a huge enough sample to gauge whether or not no offline mode is a deal breaker or not. Then gaming magazines that show that it isn’t a deal breaker. The trailer wasn’t down voted either. What do you think that 750k people can attend Blizzcon. That is how many players down voted the trailer. Roughly 750k down votes to 30k likes. Now if D4’s trailer was treated the same way due to no offline mode then you would see a difference. But that didn’t happen.
I deal in logic and reasoning, cold hard facts. You can argue all you want, but you will never beat facts.
Now you are making an appeal to emotions. Primarily fear, all because I am not a Yes Man/No Man when it comes to this subject.
There are many ways to encrypt files and it doesn’t matter how smart of a hacker it is you still need the program to decrypt it and those codes are never shown and will be locked away and there is no way in Hell that someone would or in fact could guess them. I suggest learning the structure before you talk about it.
Still wouldn’t work see previous.
I was saying that they did exist never that they kept updating it, seriously dude read what I’m saying because you are giving me an headache.
Again a headache from your BS either your brain is rotting or you have a bad memory, I can’t decide which it is, however I’m not repeating myself here, either read what I said previously or don’t. Up to you.
You keep on yapping and you can yap all you want but take one look in the comment section and if you have a brain you will understand why it was down voted.
Again I’m not repeating myself.
Really? Because you have failed doing just that this far.
You can believe whatever you want it’s a free world so whatever helps you sleep at night.
D3 essentially had a built in black market that blizzard profited from. After they shut down the auction houses, a very large percentage of people quit. I wonder what their incentive was for playing. They definitely were not immersed in a quality arpg. This reason is constantly disregarded by fanboys pointing to sales as an indication of a quality game with good design choices.
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Bring it back ! God damn it !
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Are you saying that encryption is for both the server and the files on your computer? If so then no one would be able to make any mods at all. That is unless they can be good at cracking encryption.
Encryption has been broken by those that really know what they are doing. So more would be needed than trying to rely solely on encryption.
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I am stating simple facts and they don’t add up like you are thinking. Offline mode isn’t gonna be added to D4 or even D3, that is unless Blizz gets stupid. Or they stop caring for the Diablo franchise, which I highly doubt that will happen.
I know it was down voted because is a mobile only game that was announced to a PC and console gamers. That was a huge mistake for Blizz to make and hopefully they won’t do it again.
For a moment think on this, how many players that boo’d Blizz do you think will actually buy it. I am sure that the majority of those that boo’d Blizz won’t be buying it because mobile only is a deal breaker. This is what I am using that as evidence of. The same with the trailer for Diablo Immortal. It is proof that mobile only is a deal breaker.
Since you don’t have that with no support for offline mode means that it isn’t a deal breaker. This is what is important for both us and Blizz. If it were a deal breaker then you would see them change. But since it isn’t a deal breaker for the majority they will make D4 as online only like D3.
You want to ignore what I put forth. They are facts, if something is a deal breaker players will saying right at the announcement. They won’t be meh and wait till many long months before saying something about it.
That is like saying you go to a place to eat to get steak dinner. You pay for steak dinner and you get a burger and fries for dinner. I am sure that you won’t eat that and be meh about what you got. No, you would be up in arms and rightfully so, unless the restaurant ran out of steak and only had burgers and fries left to serve.
I do believe that they had more players returning than leaving when the AHs were removed.
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