What is it that the people demanding changes keep telling everyone else? “The original game is still there for you to play.”
Yeah well, the original mods are still there for you to play.
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Irrelevant argument on both counts. We don’t know what the extent of mod support will be and we don’t even know if mods will allow multiplayer, therefore, mods are not the answer until they confirm that they are.
This is totally “superfluous” logic, imo. Can you appreciate how frankly silly, at base, a statement that is? It’s the safest course for Blizz and for any remaster. D2R is essentially a D2 remaster, so if it’s kept mostly like D2, no one will have any real justification for being upset. That’s perfectly in line with the expectations for a remaster, after all.
But if D2R introduces all these new things, people will have every justification to be irritated and surprised. Because those changes would be outside the normal expectations for a remaster AND theyd prevent the fanbase who just wants to keep playing D2 from being able to do it.
Please man, you repeat yourself without acknowledging Ive responded directly to your points several times already… I agree with a separate community like HC/SC. But game-to-game toggles will prevent us from being able to have the original experience. Theyd change the dynamics across the community in many ways, including forcing most to use those toggles if they want to loot competitively. That’s not the original experience for us - and what, shouldnt the original experience take precedence in a remaster? This is ridiculous.
The only way this could work with minimal issue is separate communities like HC/SC, as Drium suggests. I know all you care about is being able to play game-to-game toggles though, original experience for players be cursed.
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This is totally “superfluous” logic, imo. Can you appreciate how frankly silly, at base, a statement that is? It’s the safest course for Blizz and for any remaster. D2R is essentially a D2 remaster, so if it’s kept mostly like D2, no one will have any real justification for being upset. That’s perfectly in line with the expectations for a remaster, after all.
But if D2R introduces all these new things, people will have every justification to be irritated and surprised. Because those changes would be outside the normal expectations for a remaster AND theyd prevent the fanbase who just wants to keep playing D2 from being able to do it.
Please man, you repeat yourself without acknowledging Ive responded directly to your points several times already… I agree with a separate community like HC/SC. But game-to-game toggles will prevent us from being able to have the original experience. Theyd change the dynamics across the community in many ways, including forcing most to use those toggles if they want to loot competitively. That’s not the original experience for us - and what, shouldnt the original experience take precedence in a remaster? This is ridiculous.
The only way this could work with minimal issue is separate communities like HC/SC, as Drium suggests. I know all you care about is being able to play game-to-game toggles though, original experience for players be cursed.
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Dude Stop Spamming!
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Hmm? Ive posted in this thread like 4 times except for the back and forth with Drium in the beginning? I rarely make topics…
Saying almost the same 
thing every time! We get it You don’t want any changes🤦♂️
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Easy, dude. I was directly responding to Micro’s point a sec ago. As for this topic, all these toggle requests have some serious issues that Id like Blizz to be clearly aware of. Obviously the understanding of how these toggles would work was not fully understood by the community, hence all these different interpretations and replies. As for you, try not to let game forums upset you too much. Ignoring you now though.
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It wont be that complicated. Besides why should i be forced to play with purists?
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Yeah, that was resolved a couple replies after what youre referencing. I totally agree with you. Separate communities like HC/SC would minimize issues, I think.
Actually the safest bet is to provide both game modes and have them be completely separate.
A lot of people preordered this thinking there would be QOL changes.
A lot of people preordered it thinking there would be none at all.
If Blizzard only does one thing, whichever one it is, they’re losing.
If they just do both, and make it so both can exist at the same time, that’s the safest bet by far.
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completely not needed, and a waste of the teams money and time. never gonna happen lol. its getting toxic how far you are willing to go to repeat yourself over and over again… youve beaten this horse to a bloody pulp… only to be ignored by blizzard… move on to something more constructive already… the safe bet is to NOT make changes, it just sad you willing choose to ignore the fact that its a business move to not remake a 20 year old game… and that if they just remaster it ( which is easy ) then its a win win… and they could give a hoot if you buy the game play for 1 ladder then quit. its all about selling 40 dollar copies of an easily made product… its not rocket science people… they have D4 and other games their working on, which take WAY more time, money and, effort than a simple remaster…
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i think 99% of the people who preordered it knew ther would come QOL.
the last 1% ditten read anything befor preorder or ditten watch blizzcon
so saying alot preordered it thinking no QOL would not happen. i dont think so
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The forums are full of people complaining and demanding that things like autogold and even item comparison be removed. So yes, actually, there are at least 5-6 people here (and likely more not on the forums) for whom even those tiny little changes are still too much.
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yer its to much for them… but doo you think they knew what QOL came befor preordering the game?
and if the knew and still complain… sheeeesh 
and if they dittten knew and just order the game anyway… sheshhh to that also
There’s no need to shame and insult people for that. You should know that by now.
The bottom line is that a lot of different people are looking forward to this game, for different reasons, and different play styles. Blizzard has everything to gain and nothing to lose trying to appeal to as many people as possible and including different game modes that’ll satisfy everyone without taking away from anyone either.
The idea this needs to be one thing and one thing only is incredibly dated.
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Nothing interesting was ever achieved by playing it safe
why do you think HC is so fun? 
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loot filter: yes
charm inventory: f no
stackable: only in stash
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who did in insult?
20 char
over 142 replys and only 4 upvotes…
something tells me its not much of a “risk”…
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It’s really not.
It’s more risky for Blizzard to double down and only cater to one audience, than it is for them to spend a bit of time to make something with different game modes so that everyone is happy and gets their friends to play.
I know a lot of people for whom whether they make further changes or not will be the difference between playing this game solo only, or grabbing all of their friends and telling them to buy this game and play together. Me included.
Blizzard/VV stands to gain more by supporting a modernized game mode AND the classic no-changes everyone wants than they do by picking only one.
My own case taken: most of my friends never played D2 when it came out. A changeless classic D2 would absolutely not work for most of them. But if it was modernized? I could definitely convince seven of them to buy the game and play with me.
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