#SAVEBARBS: update Mortick’s to also increase damage by 50% while WOTB is active!

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Then one wonders if they’re utterly useless why they offered to activate all 5 runes. When I saw Slaughter I thought it feeds up Bloodshed from Battle Rage by offering area damage on crit chains appears I was wrong and 15 yards is small.
They should’ve done it in a way of only activating two runes; LpFS and damage mitigation, so Insanity would be a staple. No need for activating Wail or Slaughter at all. Right?

Will do. If I had one hour to waste and nothing else to do… Still, DoT is DoT and I doubt it’s that simple. Amping up DoT solves nothing, it’s still tickrate for server and increasing damage is promoting its use which means overall burden.

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UUUH 50% is too little at least 200%. That’ll put barbs in the range of other builds

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There’s no guesswork. If you know the problems with the class, mathematically speaking, and you know what is needed, you can tell that Mortick’s offers no meaningful buff. Clearing 120 with HOTA isn’t because of the bracers, McCheese. It’s because you have 140 gems, 3.5k Paragon, and quite a bit of experience with Barb–it’s your main class!

We’ve explained this over and over–I have, Ulma (Archael) has, and numerous other Barbs who know their stuff. What I, what we, are “speking” is, in fact, true. This is not a meaningful buff, and true end-game pushes will put Mortick’s aside for Magefist. Even if it’s not, the item isn’t propelling any builds past their current power potential, because it doesn’t provide meaningful damage. 'Nuff said.

BTW, Lucky’s clear is in the Barb video archive in the forum. But be careful. Wouldn’t want you to read a novel or anything.

That’s a good question. While I can’t be 100% sure, here’s what I believe happened. When Nev told us last patch that they were working on Barbs, we got excited. Then we mobilized and did the proposal, which was covered by numerous YouTubers, Icy Veins, Diablofans, and countless posts here on the forums. Even Nev confirmed it had been passed on to the devs.

But clearly, somewhere along the way, the decisions was made to not work on Barbs this patch. That’s obvious now, and they must have anticipated the uproar that’s currently happening. So, to throw us a bone, they re enabled Mortick’s to drop. Remember, it was in the game back in 2.2.0, but at the last minute–without an announcement–they changed it so the item couldn’t drop (except on consoles, where it did continue to drop, but that’s another story).

In other words, they took the path of least resistance. Mortick’s needed no additional art assets since it was already in the game code. No new coding, either. Just flip the switch and BOOM. The item can now drop. And it’s so outdated compared to the current item power curve that they knew for 100% certain it couldn’t break the game. They also know that people still foam at the mouth for the item, even now, 4 years down the road, when it offers us nothing of value.

They played to optics. People saw Mortick’s and, I kid you not, proclaimed the second coming of Barbs. But the reality is, as we well know, very, very different.

I have to believe this is how it all went down, because the alternative is even nastier: They legitimately thought Mortick’s was a big, powerful buff for Barbs. Again, I don’t want to believe that, because it would mean the people working on the game do not understand the game upon which they are working.

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Don’t care about your proposal.
You guys are mostly softies and I don’t play that way.
I did some testing on PTR yesterday and Mortick’s gives
3-5 Greater rift levels more.
Your math is wrong.
I tested same character on PTR and then on non seasons.
NEver tested all the jewelry or weapons yet, but Mortick’s was
a nice boost, especially for DR, which is important in HC.
None of you are devs, but think you can change numbers
and nothing will happen.
Doesn’t work that way with this old engine that runs D3.
I am done responding to you wanna be Barbs, but if any want to join
me in HC, self found, I welcome it.
Solo 100% though, that’s the only way to really test stuff, not this
ridiculous multi player reward system that gives you 10x exp, drops.

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My best was 105 with IK HOTA. I’ll be on soon to see if it gets me 108-110. I’m gonna lose my Bracers of the First Man so BotFM will have to go the cube. That means I lose my Aquila Chest that was in the cube. The Wrath rune that reduces damage will equal the Aquila Chest so that’s a wash. I guess I don’t need to worry about have 90% wrath (wasn’t a problem before). So I will gain that free healing from the Wrath rune. I don’t think I gain anything else so I have doubts that extra healing gets me 3-5 more Greater Rifts. I’ll try though!

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I went on PTR. Took off my Bracers of the First man and put on Mortics. Put Bracers of the First Man in my Cube instead of Aquila. I got a survival boost but not much damage increase and did not beat 110 in my first try (best was 109 before I thought it was 105 in my other posts but forgot since I hadn’t played in a while). Did I do something wrong in my setup with Mortics? I think I can get rid of blood thirst. Will try again.

Edit: ok I did 110 in 14:xx. Note: i did get an amulet upgrade of 20% fire from my S17 Necro so I don’t think the extra GRfit was from the new Bracer. I honestly do not think this Bracer is a big upgrade unless i did something wrong in my setup.

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I´m the guy with the “7 gr jump” and would like to clarify some points that I have made hastily in another posting without thinking about it.

But first, i´m a barb only player ( or better was, after blizzard skipped the barb class again, i played crusader, also a great class, i liked it very much).

So now back to my posting regarding the 7 gr jump. It has nothing to do with the mortick bracers primarly. Like i said, i made the statement to hastily. The last season i played for the first time in 7 years another class. And after i read the patch notes i went to ptr and removed the dust from my barb. I tried directly a 115 and beat it (IK HOTA). My first thought was “wow those bracers are great”. But after a while i realized it had nothing to do with the bracers. I could have beaten 115 in 2.6.5 if i had tried to push hard (the dmg, the gear and the paragon was there) , but i never tried.

And when i tried 115 in ptr i had a very, very gg map, festering woods + conduit pylone, with 3 elites and 2 packs and the screen was full of mobs who gave me good progression. Second floor was similar, full of mobs and a power pylone with 2 elite and 1 pack around the pylone. And the RG appeared right in front of a speed pylone.

First i was so euphoric and thought " wow great bracers" but later on, i realized it had nothing to do with bracers. I had 2600 paragon, i saw people other people who did more than that (115 IK HOTA) with less paragon, and not so good gear.

Maybe the only thing this bracers gave me was life regernation with the lpfs. Thats it, nothing more nothing less, dmg wise they gave me nothing.

Hope this clarify it. Thank you.

btw: sry for my bad english :frowning:

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This is a nice personality mate! Only the bravest take their mistakes! :metal::+1:

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haha! thats true. But almost the same lv of ignorence :slight_smile:

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For all that people that say, morticks give 3-5 more GR levels, you are literally a newbie with Barb and don’t push hard with the same build.

Morticks only give toughness, which make It easier not die in GR, and have more time to reposition, that’s all. Right now all builds in diablo 3 that are in top 1-50, pushed with highest damage version of the build in softcore.

My English is a fcking sh1t but you’re ignorance complaining about an item that help a class keep Alive easily, which is under 10-15 GR behind Wizard for example… GG

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Mate, you are a damn lucky one! 1145 paragon and you have almost perfect gear for this build! :slight_smile: Don’t know wich gems you use now but on your profile you have gem of effecious toxin… well that is worthless in this scenario. u have to use stricken. and instead of BotP use pain enhancer. Actually in past I haven’t liked pain enhancer with this build but with Mortick its fine. BTW: if I were u I would wear BotFM on gear and change aquila to Mortick. Your BotFM is decent. Ofc if you have better Mortick than use that one. GL!

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Ladypaka, reported for your comment. That was extremely childish for lashing out in that way.
And to the other nay sayser like lockNload.
It has been calculated. By people running with numbers from Blizzard.
A 120 is nothing compared to others that could run with the same gear and clear higher.
And outdated item that old, changes nothing. Remember when they changed the set bonuses with xxxx percentage? People screaming up about “it’s too much!!!”, while only giving them 5 grift levels…
So yeah, go read up on what people and Free have written. Morticks brace with all the runes deal nothing compared to the updated items other classes got.

In 3+ years we have recieved nothing compared to every other class.
That is a fact.
The fact also remains we are the lowest in progression levels.
The fact remains, that Raekor fails short with it’s rather long rampup time, when you need to stack charges and use a buggy mechanic to do so.
There is literally no other build out there that needs that much time to deal okay’ish damage.
It’s so easy to sit here writing “oh well, I went on the ptr and I raised my levels”.
Sure, how long did you try? Any video?

The ones you are bashing are people from long time ago, that knows the stuff they talk about. You wont get much more info talking to the developers that even made the class…
Sure, the Morticks brace might have given you some levels, but think for a bit…
Everyone agress ( that pushes to the VERY TOP ), it lacks DAMAGE… You could have done that 120 progression without Morticks brace, but it gave you a small advantage by giving you a slight increase in defense…That’s it…
Those percentages you see are not buffed by anything. They are smaller than Hota bracers percentage paired with the gavel…
People have calculated this out for you and you still refuse, cause quite frankly, you were so stubborn when you were told you were wrong and now grasps for things to say in order for you to not look bad…

Fact remains : Barbarians got nothing, they were promised something. Not an outdated item.
Fact remains : they lack damage. It is all calculated. Heck, they even had time to implement it and run it.
Fact remains : season 17 brought nothing for Barbarians but for all others it did.

This is going down the hill with this discussions, when people are blind to see what is handed to them…
You, youtubers and streamers that proclaim everything is fine with Barbarians, you clearly lack the understanding of a rather simple thing.

If you think getting an outdated item like this with NO buff on it, do you think Dagger of Darts Wd would be running so high if it had an item outdated and never recieved a buff?
Would you think Dh’s would run the highest clear for that class without any updates for their items, they got in s17?

So why do you think Barbarians suddenly are sooo great, with an old item that never recieved anything?
It’s like giving a Witch Doctor an item that gives him all runes for Big Bad Voodoo and tell him “oh, you got an item, great… Now you can push 10 grifts lvls higher”…

When you don’t actually calculate or know the basics = if something is not provided support from a buff, it does nothing. 3400 percentage is nothing in this situation.
A defensive SLIGHTLY increase is nothing, as long as the damge isn’t there…

Seriously, go read up on some posts from Free and others, that knows what they talk about…
You got the time, since you’ve had the time replying here. Go spend 5min doing so…

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Why are you even announcing your report? To scare off people to be claimed as “righteous”?

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Cause when something is wrong, I tell people instead of hiding. And cause it was uncalled for… If you need to trash talk someone in a discussion you already lost.

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The only one being arrogant here is people like yourself.

Those people you talk about knows the game in and out and way more than you do.
Experience in game is not always an indication of what you know. Info can be found rather easily.
I report you cause you never discuss on a forum by bashing on someone else and think it is okay.

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I got no tolerance towards people in the need to lash out and trash talk others.
Reporting you again when I can and ignored from now on.

You have proven you don’t know anything you talk about. And the only thing you can defend yourself with is being childish and lashing out.

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That is what you. You think you the only have the right to say the GOOD or BAD things. And if something or someone don’t fit you you just report… And what next? Execution?

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When someone is trash talking, like you do. They get a report. There is a difference in debatting a subject about Barbarians and telling others “you are trash” etc. I am done with you and your childish way.

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No. You think about yourself like a God who decide if something is good or bad.

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Man. You are the trash talking one here.
I went to PTR. I checked a build. I had an experience and I shared my experience. That is what I did. And what you did? Coming here and attacking me… ridiculous…

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