Re: Waste 2pc bonus

(2) Set:
Increase the damage per second of Rend by 500% and its duration to 15 seconds.

How exactly does extending the duration to 15 seconds any beneficial to Rend? 500% damage in 5 seconds vs 500% damage in 15 seconds is still 500% damage. And considering Ambo will detonate it all in 1 second makes absolutely no sense at all.

This reminds me of D2’s Poison, 10000 Damage in 3000 seconds. So OP in PVP… NOT!

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Well before ambos it would just make rend last longer and hot harder but rend was pointless then. Now since ambos ignites it hits very hard. You will only worry about the 2p bonus if you are lvling.

15 seconds of 500% damage each second is more than 5 seconds of 500% damage each second… especially when Ambo blasts it all in 1 second.

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Rend would normally apply 1100% (depending on rune) damage over 5 seconds, or 220% per second. The 2 piece bonus increases this bonus by an ADDITIONAL 500% per second and extends the duration to 15 seconds, so a lot more total damage.

Ambo’s Pride applies this increased damage in 1 second instead of 15.

So the math is:
(1100% / 5 seconds) * (100%+500%) * 15.
instead of:
1100% * (100%+500%) / 15 seconds

I’m not a math guy, but that looks right.

Yes. While the duration is increased, the damage of Rend is NOT spread across the increased duration. 2 piece is essentially a 15x damage increase to Rend - 5x increase in damage done per tick, and 3x increase in total damage done due to duration increase.

Then Ambo’s takes all that and deals the damage in 1 second.

Its an 18 x multiplyer. 500% is a 6x multiplier

No

And no. That 500% isnt a 6x multiplier it is adding 500% weapon damage to the 220% weapon damage the skill already does. This means it’s a 3.27x multiplier with an additional 3x for the tripled duration.

Wastes 2 does indeed increase the damage per second of Rend by 6x. And it triples the duration, which in the context of Ambo’s triples the damage (3x).

So yes, when you take Ambo’s into account, Wastes 2 does give you 18x (or, you could say a 17x addition) on Rend damage. Without Ambo’s, it would just be 6x (a 5x addition).

Yes!

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Nice Mistborn and WoT character name references!

As Rage said, it is a multiplier. How you tell that is the wording. It “increases the damage by %500.” That is the wording they use for multiplicative damage increases. If it said, “adds an addition %500 damage”, then you would be right.

Also, increasing the duration from 5 sec to 15 sec increases it TOTAL damage by 3X. It did not increase its actual dps though. Ambos changes that. By compressing the time to deal its TOTAL damage to just one second.

Ergo, the damage increase from Ambos is pretty amazing.

Same as 100 increase damege is double and 300 is quad. Its pretty simple just have to look at wording

If it increases the weapon damage% it always explicitly states it

Yes by a percentage. So 100 is 2x and 300 is 4 x multiplier