You guys should really think if doing a system so people some kind of close to same paragons. Ive gone in to like 30 games in a row now. Everyone is under 500.
I have noone to play with, so i must search the public.
Everytime its like i sad 500 paragon, and i am 2330.
Or its always started with someone around 400-600 try to solo a 150 for 15 min. Try to solo it even if they know they cant.
I would be glad to see some kind of system against paragon levels, so if you search you get close to what you are. Its always people jumping in out , in out etc.
And those lower levels, maybe new players that dont know that if people cancel and they accedently starts it. And then are there 15 min, people waiting or getting angry.
Just better balance, it would atleast make me glad that dont have anyone to play with.
Try one of the many communities. That is a great way to find like minded people to play with. Also, a clan might be a good option.
Ive tried clan, people play with their friends also. Community, works 50/50 i would say
Problem is most people won’t play long hours like you possible. I play about 1 hr a day during the week and more on weekends. I’m at 800 Para on my seasonal character since it started. I just can’t pay for endless hours to get that high.
i play when i got time, so not very much really. Now ive been off work cause of christrmas. otherwise i play maybe 5-6h week. Just want some balance, cause now when i got time and got alot of para i cant find more than rifts 100 with people and it doesnt give me anything. Speedrun 100 for gems i can do alone
The thing is if those at 500 or under do they 75 GR solo. They have the right to be in a T16 GR game. Yes it is really not right. Because they can’t handle it. But that is what Blizzard setup.
Plus what “T” levels you doing? If you can’t fine GR T16 game to get into. If you have to go lower “T” level don’t hold that against them.
I have been in T6 GR game where you have some body like your paragon. The first thing they want to is a 100 GR. The poor guy that is at 300, 400, or 500 can’t handle.
Yes in a way you are helping them to lvl up. But in a way you are not. They have to stand at the door. But if you have a short first map they are losing some of the EXP. they would get.
So what I’m saying if you people with high paragon stay out of the lower games. Just like you want them to stay out of the higher GR games. It can work both ways.
I dont think a system where your paired up with similar paragon players would work well. Cause I could be paragon 3k and decide to make a new character that has very weak gear, I most likely would not be able to contribute as much yet. But I do agree that the current lobby system is bad. I and many others had mentioned a suggestion where players could create games with titles and requirements to join their game, similar to what D2 has, it was brought up multiple times but apparently the D3 team just throws those kinds of suggestions straight into their trash…
This is why i never go into a public GR looking to do anything higher than GR110s, the chances of anyone finding a good team in public GRs are very small. It’s better to just find a good clan and/or community to join and look to form groups there for higher GRs pushes. If you’ve joined a clan and/or community and they dont got the time or players to help you with then you didnt join a good clan/community. A good clan would have multiple groups going each night filtering in and out clanmates so that everyone gets the chance to play.
I’m still trying to figure out why I need 150 gems, 3000 paragon, etc. Sure, more main spec, but seriously, there will always be someone 100 levels above me.
What irks me most is that the drop rate for legs, ancients, and primals is non-existent this season unless you are running 125+ grifts. I mean seriously, this entire season I have received ONE primal… lol. And it took weeks of farming to just complete an Ancient set on my main. lol.
And as of today I have been farming for a Gibbering Gemstone for three weeks, hundreds of Chiltara kills, and nada.
As others have said, public grifts aren’t the place to find crew to run 150. Though, I need to thank the guys that do run 115 and 125 in public to help us casual players out a bit. I haven’t been using them much this season so I have plateaued at 980 or so … but past seasons they helped me get out of the <100 gem doldrums and pass 1500.
The other part of it is as Beun said: paragon is meaningless. I’ve been in 90 grifts where a guy with 2500 paragon was letting his girlfriend drive his toon – she was failing miserably. Setting a range for a group makes a lot of sense. But where Blizz could help is when you come into a grift group and they are running a grift, PLEASE BLIZZ - show players what level grift is being run. Waiting 5 minutes to find out they are in a 150 when anything above 125 is insta-death isn’t fun. Similarly, waiting to find out the group took 14.9 minutes to finish a 75 is just as painful.
Maybe the best way to go is to not allow a guy with a 75 solo on his toon invoke or join anything higher in public. Doesn’t solve the change into low gear - trying new set problem - but would get people closer.
I can see where the op is getting at, and it’s not as much paragon that is the important part, but rather the investment into their own account, paragon is just a simple metric we can follow.
I can see better equipped and more fleshed out characters at paragon 2000 vs paragon 500. So you get the feeling of being on a more equal footing.
Players might feel that they are contributing more if they are on a similar level, having such a huge difference in paragon may force lower geared players to play at a level where their defences doesn’t save them.
It’s not great if you’re dead and have to ress every 30 seconds.
Now, the system isn’t perfect ofcourse, but atleast it would nudge players that are in the same ballpark together.
Paragob doesn’t say all.
Especially when it comes to meta z chars.
P1100+ is way good enough for a z build.
So good p2000+ dps chars, benifit properly from z chars, even at much lower para…
Btw, I also encounter p2000+ who suck…
So, simply matching in para doesn’t seem right. Performance in a group and your individual contribution should count as well.
Playing any grift above gr110 with a sub p1000 group seems and feels futile…
Under p800 it gets much worse…
Displaying the gr level when one is in progress, definately feels much needed info!
your right there, but something that system the players. ive now joined 15 greater public, 10 of them was solo player that wont leave, the rest 5 was 500 paragon tryin to start 130greatr.
Its really boring when im not having anyone to play with.
If you stat and gear right, you can carry / train the new sets of lowbies.
If you want some help later today look me up, I can sign on and help.
#Turgin1204 I think, I will check later.
This what I’m talking about. I was in a T6 GR game today. The one guy at like 860 paragon. Started a 75 GR and when we got done the first thing he want to do is Kick the guy that was at 450 paragon. The only reason was what I think was the guy was dying to much.
Well I didn’t kick the guy. So we played on till this other guy comes in with over 1600 paragon. The first thing he starts doing is 80, 85 & than a 90 GR’s. Once we got to 90. Like almost all Mindless GoD DH’s do.
Instead of helping the lower paragon people. He just started running as fast as he could. Leaving these poor guys at a lot lower paragon lvl dying all over the place from the white trash.
So if you want a System to match the paragon. Then you higher paragon people shouldn’t be able to get in a lower “T” lvl too.
Ive been playing a lot of public games lately and havent seen it THAT bad. I was just in a game with everyone over2k, it was so good we made a private game so we could switch stuff up. We could def, use a better match making system though.
amen to you, its good when you finding thoose people.
I have been lucky enough to find groups in public games that could do 120. Even one that got to 130.
Even when a member could not go higher we kept at the level that went well for all.
Very rare to find that. (It was 115+).
Most groups I found in public games with para 1000+ had no issue doing 110 though.
But you shouldn’t try with 4 zDPS… lol…
So, dps and zdps should be a variable of a matching system too…
So, finding a nice group can happen, but it is rare.
especially the low paragon folks don’t like to play zdps. apparently hurts their ego too much