PTR Thank you for ALL of the DH, Necro changes!

You have no proof that they promised that the next season would be necro and DH. Without proof it never happened. You were just thinking it would be DH and Necro.

They told you that they wouldn’t be adding in all new sets for all classes. They said that each patch will not have something for your favorite class but if you are patient you will get something in a future patch.

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well, respectfully, 2.6.7 patch, and 2.6.8 patch, nothing for DHs. Considering we’ve been screwed for longer than any other class, I think we should have gotten some love, and pronto.

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well, perma vengeance is required for any DH build to have any real DPS and survivability. Without it, we’re a complete sitting duck. We’re already weaker than any other character class from a base point. Being dependent on vengeance means we effectively lose a slot in the cube - we must use Dawn in the cube. No other character class/build has this problem.

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:+1: Aaaaaaaaaaaaay.

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Says who?

They made it pretty clear they would only be addressing 2-3 classes per patch, and they gave zero indication as to what order they would go in.

DH and Necro will be next patch evidently.

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Here is where they said it.

This is the definition of near future

Very soon, within a short time. For example, We’ll be needing a new car in the near future. This term employs near in the sense of “close at hand,” a usage dating from about 1300

Which means this was the DH patch. Otherwise nearfuture was a lie, and they should have told us the end of 2020 instead.

All classes deserve at least a few changes with each patch outside of the SETS being added. As we speak only 1 class truly benefited from the last 3 patches and thats barbs. I’m not sure why they are getting such high special treatment, but this special treatment is not only going to sour the community, but it will also make D3 empty when everyone thats left bails on this game.


Patch 2.6.6 = Crafted Set changes, but also **BARB** item changes

Patch 2.6.7 = Monk & Sader new sets, BARB changes again.

Patch 2.6.8 = Barb, WD, and Wizard class sets added. BARB changes for yet a 3rd patch in a row.


I personally dont care about new sets because our current ones need more correcting. I personally would rather have 1-2 really defined, perfect sets over 5 mediocore worthless ones that need 4+ patches of adjustments. What we all need is continious item adjustments for all the worthless items, nurfed items, and the items with no legenadary affix’s.

The patch cycles are a endless game of cat and mouse game between all classes in Diablo 3. This is because of developers lack of interest in balancing everyone at the same time. This results in players being forced to switch classes each season in order to keep up or compete in this game (including solo because of paragon) and if you hate the other classes then all thats left is for you to quit D3. There is no inbetween because if you do play your loved class then you will be playing solo 99.99% of the time. This kind of patch CYCLEINGis TOXIC to this game and its all been amplified by patches after 2.6.5.

Blizzard should have released small changes for all classes with each patch, then created sets for all classes and threw them in the PTR’s. Then if they wern’t ready, they hold the sets until the next PTR, while still pushing through the other changes that are ready; Then repeat. This might take 2-3 patches for the sets to be testest right, but they wouldnt be released in an unfair advantage for the rest of us. On top of that by the time they add the last round of class sets, the first two classes Monk/Sader are going to feel very left out and expect yet another patch for them. This cycling is so toxic its the reason D3 has such hate in the community because instead of bringing us together it’s actually dividing us further apart with each patch.

By the time the last patch for DH, Necro comes through, most of the wizard, barb, monk, and sader community will simply quit or sit out the season from a lack of interest because of no changes which splits the already small community into even smaller community’s with each patch cycle.

There are so many other ways to have gone about adding new items to this game and at the very least every class deserves at least 2 changes per patch not just the barbarian class which got 3 patches in a row of changes that has now soured the community and made people quit. The community is already small, but ending up in games (public or private) with 3 other barbs proves my exact point about the patching process failure to bring us all together, but instead devide us more.

I will add that I was wrong about the wizard changes, I thought they were buffs but it looks like they just got nerfs over the last few patches.

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This is incorrect. Look at Barbarian pre ww/rend.

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Cute, funny or sour grapes. The world may never know.

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Thats true but it’s what a lot of multi class players suspected were to be the changes.

So hydra wiz is a nice gesture to the chantodo nerf, as well frenzy barb as a more lively play style then the great WW 2.6.7 changes. The WD is just odd because its based on spirit barrage again. Someone in Blizzard loves that play style.

DH and Necro probably represent more thinking because the 4 builds for each are overlapping a bit with play style. I imagine the artwork with the many objects in motion is tougher to work with. :slightly_smiling_face:

I already switched to Titan Quest HD on mobile since they don’t even want to release Diablo Immortal.

I think blizzard will pay more attention to what ever is cresting the leaderboards than what they really need to do for classes that need help the most. Its sorta a popularity contest with the most active and most vocal. :wink:

And my fact still remains. Saying Dh is screwed longer than any other class is incorrect.

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Especially if you consider there is no zDPS build for DH!

I will say this one more time. If you take every class and what updates they’ve gotten and what they didn’t , Barbarian is the class that has gotten nothing for the longest aka “being screwed the longest”. Don’t matter if it can play zdps or whatever build. End of this.

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Why are you jumping into DH/Nec thread to remind us all about the barb misery? Thats over with, you have WW/Rend, and now have frenzy with 2.6.8 .
DH while have a bit more useful builds seldom participated in multiple-player GR’s. I know this from playing barbs and DHs for 19 seasons. I look forward to Necro changes also. :yum:

Why are you defending a false statement, when it’s simply not true. I was here reading and read that comment, in which is incorrect. Barbarian is in fact, the class that has gotten the least amount of improvement before the ww/rend and now the new set. That is a fact and you can read it all over this forum. Just cause Dh didn’t get anything this patch does not mean it’s the most screwed class. There is a difference and I am done here. No need to argue this just cause you wanna argue about Dh. There is a difference in “Dh needs something” and “Dh is the most screwed class”. Learn it.

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My original> I think blizzard will pay more attention to what ever is cresting the leaderboards than what they really need to do for classes that need help the most. Its sorta a popularity contest with the most active and most vocal.

your reply> And my fact still remains. Saying Dh is screwed longer than any other class is incorrect.

my post> Especially if you consider there is no zDPS build for DH!

That was a joke but also pointed out that Barbs did have a work around for multiplayer.
So when did I reiterate Dpastern comment to you? Huh?

I am wondering why you need to over emphasis Barb had tough love where now the topic is about only DH and Necros by Jumpmans post?

I am wondering what delusional world you live in. How about you read the comments.
Might need to go reread this thread. You are way lost.

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Um your facts are false. Barbs are just the biggest, loudest community of them all so they actually ended up with the most changes out of everyone.

Since you think BARBS have been shafted for so long lets break down the history of what classes got actual skill or item changes based on facts that are on the D3 website. Excluding Nurfs.

Patch 2.0.4 = Crusader, DH, Monk, WD, Wizard, and BARB changes

Patch 2.0.5 = Crusader, DH, Monk, WD, Wizard, and BARB changes

Patch 2.0.6 = Monk changes

Patch 2.1.0 = Crusader, DH, Monk, WD, Wizard, and BARB changes

Patch 2.1.1 = Crusader and WD changes

Patch 2.1.2 = DH, Monk, WD, Wizard, and BARB changes

Patch 2.2.0 = Crusader, DH, Monk, WD, Wizard, and BARB changes

Patch 2.2.1 = Monk, and BARB changes

Patch 2.3.0 = Crusader, DH, Monk, WD, Wizard, and BARB changes

Patch 2.4.0 = Crusader, DH, Monk, WD, Wizard, and BARB changes

Patch 2.4.1 = Crusader, DH, Monk, WD, Wizard, and BARB changes

Patch 2.4.2 = Crusader, DH, Monk, WD, Wizard, and BARB changes

Patch 2.4.3 = Crusader, DH, Monk, WD, Wizard, and BARB changes

Patch 2.5.0 = Crusader, DH, Monk, WD, Wizard and BARB changes

Patch 2.6.0 = Necro (newly added) no other specific class changes

Patch 2.6.1 = Necro, Crusader, Monk, WD, Wizard and BARB changes

Patch 2.5.0 = Crusader, DH, Monk, WD, Wizard and BARB changes

Patch 2.6.4 = Necro, Crusader, DH, Monk, WD, Wizard and BARB changes

Patch 2.6.5 = Necro, Crusader, DH, Monk, WD, Wizard and BARB changes

Patch 2.6.6 = Crafted Sets/Items for all class changes, and a specific BARB change Mortick’s Bracer’s.

Patch 2.6.7 = Crusader, Monk sets added and BARB changes

Patch 2.6.8 = WD, and Wizard class sets added and BARB changes again

We have a total of 22 patches listed on D3’s patch history website (Necro had 4 out of 8 patches) This is the TALLY of all classes and how many patches each class benefited from. I also added the % to equally add the necro into this statistic.

Barbarians = 19 patch cycles (86.36%)

Monk = 18 patch cycles (81.81%)

WD = 17 patch cycles (77.27%)

Wizard = 16 patch cycles (72.72%)

Crusader = 16 patch cycles (72.72%)

DH = 14 patch cycles = (63.63)

Necro = 4 (of 8 patches) = (50%)

Based on the actual patch history since patch 2.0.4 it appears that Barbarians have been given WAY more attention and given more changes in more patches than any other class.

As you can see DH and Necro have received the least amount of attention based on patch history and instead of addressing this, blizzard doubled down with new sets for all classes and threw the most ignored classes to the very end.

https://us.diablo3.com/en/game/patch-notes/
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This has nothing to do with whom got what. What you list here also consist of small / nothing gamechanging patches.
Dh got the multishot love. It got impale. While Barbarian got nothing for 3 years almost, outside of small things that did nothing for the class in a HackNslash gamemode.

And besides, Necromancer was not even out in some of the patches you list. Hence the number will be smaller.

I don’t say that Dh and Necromancer shouldn’t get anything. But saying that they are the most screwed classes when 1, they got more from the patches they’ve got than Barbarian EVEN if they did not recieve for more patches than Barbarian and 2, they at least had some viable dps options.

So your list is flawed. Some patches was only to either remove something from Barbarian or reduce/rework something either for zdps or small changes that practically did nothing.

You can’t just sum up patches and whom got what and say “well Barbarians got more patches”, when you don’t count in WHAT they got.

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