Picasso would not approve it

If the game was not good according to others, it would not have won the most improved award.

For example, here is the list of most improved players in the NBA over the pat 20 years. This list includes players who were good players, including all-stars, all-NBA, or league MVP.

  • 2020-21 - Julius Randle, New York Knicks
  • 2019-20 - Brandon Ingram, New Orleans Pelicans
  • 2018-19 - Pascal Siakam, Toronto Raptors
  • 2017-18 - Victor Oladipo, Indiana Pacers
  • 2016-17 - Giannis Antetokounmpo, Milwaukee Bucks
  • 2015-16 - CJ MCCollum, Portland T’Blazers
  • 2014-15 - Jimmy Butler, Chicago Bulls
  • 2013-14 - Goran Dragic, Phoenix Suns
  • 2012-13 - Paul George, Indiana Pacers
  • 2011-12 - Ryan Anderson, Orlando Magic
  • 2010-11 - Kevin Love, Minnesota T’Wolves
  • 2009-10 - Aaron Brooks, Houston Rockets
  • 2008-09 - Danny Granger, Indiana Pacers
  • 2007-08 - Hedo Turkoglu, Orlando Magic
  • 2006-07 - Monta Ellis, Golden State Warriors
  • 2005-06 - Boris Diaw, Phoenix Suns
  • 2004-05 - Bobby Simmons, Los Angeles Clippers
  • 2003-04 - Zach Randolph, Portland T’Blazers
  • 2002-03 - Gilbert Arenas, Golden State Warriors
  • 2001-02 - Jermaine O’Neal, Indiana Pacers

Some got injured that negatively impacted their career.

so nba is my game. some of this players improved alot yes. but was not really good :slight_smile: som not even Hall of fame :slight_smile:

ps ther is 2 goats jordan and kobe. and why does T-mag not get more love?

Except your claim was that winning a most improved award meant that you were not good. You do not need to make the Hall of Fame to be considered good.

P.S. There is only one modern GOAT.

yer is still claim that. som of them was not good at all :slight_smile: go look at the stats.

Which ones were not good when they won the award? Remember these players were already in the NBA so their basketball skill is much better than almost everyone’s ability.

The caveat is now with the expansion of international basketball, there are more good players across the globe.

just start with the last 2 on the list. and you also only got one Leauge mvp on that list, if i remember right.

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You do not need to be league MVP to be considered good. Making the NBA all star game means you are good.

not all of the made it to nba all star team

Jermaine O’Neal was named to 6 NBA All-Star teams. He made the all-NBA team 3 times (second team twice and third team once). I think we can just agree that there is heterogeneity in knowledge. I think your post illustrates why it might make sense to listen to Brevik’s opinion on D2-related issues given his game knowledge.

From wikipedia:
Jermaine O’Neal (born October 13, 1978) is an American former professional basketball player. The centerpower forward had a successful high school career and declared his eligibility for the 1996 NBA draft straight out of high school. O’Neal, at just 17 years of age, was selected by the Portland Trail Blazers with the 17th overall pick, and played his first professional game at 18. At the time, he was the youngest player to ever play an NBA game.

O’Neal was unable to break into the first team in Portland and was traded to the Indiana Pacers in 2000. In his eight seasons with the team, he was voted an NBA All-Star six times, made the All-NBA teams three times, and was voted the NBA Most Improved Player in the 2001–02 season. O’Neal also helped Indiana reach the NBA Playoffs six times, including the Eastern Conference Finals in the 2003–04 season. O’Neal was traded to the Toronto Raptors before the 2008–09 season began, and later played for the Miami Heat, the Boston Celtics, and the Phoenix Suns. O’Neal’s final NBA season was the 2013–14 season, which he spent with the Golden State Warriors.

yes i know. look at hes stats. at tell me if they are “good” improved doesnt meen good.

STATS
Career

GP MIN FG% 3P% FT% REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS
1011 27.1 46.7 14.7 71.5 7.2 1.4 1.8 0.5 2.9 1.9 13.2

is that good? or avg? or below avg?

It really looks its a lost battle for you… Bugles seems to know basketball better without having to even to resort to wiki sources than you with the whole internet in your use.

you can look it up. its not hard.

good players. jordan.kobe-harden-durant-lebron. you get the ide.

i remember when i worked with sales. one got most improvved one month. because he had ONE big sal. els he was dead last 3 years in a row.

Yup, its relative, improving from 1 to 10 is bigger improvement than from improving from 100 to 120

and what iam saying. most improved is not=good

Yes, thats very true

Which is a lot different than saying that he would change it now.

plz tell that to MicroRNA

What are you talking about. I was not the one who falsely claimed that the 6-time Jrermaine O’Neal never made an All-Star game. People who follow the NBA over the past 20 ears know that Jermain O’Neal was a good basketball player in his prime when playing for the Pacers. The reason I provided the wiki link was to provide a link to prove what I said. I will admit I did not know the precise number of all star games but I knew it was multiple.

He has said that Blizzard could/should consider adding optional personal loot now in a tweet and in 2 videos. He is not sure that he would do it in D2R if he was in charge. Consider yes, follow through who knows?

i never did that? i said not all of them… made all star

Bobby Simmons did not

Irrespective, David Brevik knows about D2-related issues.

Then why did you choose to quote Jermaine’ O’Neal’s name specifically. See below. If it were me, I would have quoted a players name that did not not make multiple all-star games. For clarity your quote is below. If you knew this, you would have quoted Bobby Simmons name in the first place.