OVER 6300 PARAGON! Bot Sauce!

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This is why paragon needs to be capped or something. Bots receiving the benefit of the extra strength, intell and dex that comes with paragon levels. Just sayin…

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I went to maxroll and asked it some questions.
5000 paragon to 6000 paragon is just under 20% more damage.
5000 paragon to 6000 paragon running 110Gs at 2.5 minutes per and 24x7 would take a bot 24.8 days.

There has to be more than just botting to get to 6300, there must be lots of group play unless bots can do much higher than 110’s at that speed?

I can see how botting can get keys, bounties, gear and so forth but it seems that it has hard limits for getting XP. I do a lot of RATS and BRATS and it still takes a lot to get XP.

I am wondering what paragon CAP you would implement because that is the point at which players would quit the game/season?

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Or they could just ban the cheaters. Capping the paragon just means the cheaters get to the cap first, then run a ton of bounties to get perfectly rolled primals. Capping the paragon does nothing to discourage the cheaters, it just makes them harder to see.

Bots can do 4 man xp runs too, don’t underestimate the cheaters. A lot of cheaters do play 4-6 hours a day, they just have their friend run keys/bounties/xp the other 18-20 hours. While a legit player who plays 4-6 hours a day has to run keys/bounties/gem leveling along with xp runs, the cheater can play the exact same 4-6 hours and do nothing but xp runs, huge advantage.

While the damage increase from paragon is less impactful the higher you get, there is also a big damage mitigation boost from higher paragon. This allows players to free up gear spots with damage reduction and replace it with more damage dealing gear.

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by the Way in Eu we have a player near 9000 in Season. With only 4-5 h downtime. He dont need sleep

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I hate how this is always the solution, “Bots are ruining the game for real players, so we should limit this feature”. Absolutely No. The better solution would be implementing an advanced anti-cheat program that can detect bots and ban them instantly and let real players enjoy the game to its full content and features.

The D3 team needs to do a better job.

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Instead of a across-the-board paragon cap, have a leaderboard paragon cap at something like 2,000. Or have a few separate leaderboards each with their own paragon cap, 2,000 ; 4,000 ; 5,000+ …

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This! Capped public LB (paragon downscaled to 2k, gems to lvl 120 ) and separate “personal” LB with no cap but it shows only to You . Fair and just.

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Yes, absolutely, when Blizzard actually enforce their EULA and ban all the botters’ accounts more often. There’s a player on EU with over 9000 paragon this season, and a played time that’s clearly impossible to accomplish by a single player, so it’s account sharing, botting or both. We players can find these very simply. Why can’t Blizzard?

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Diablo 3 will get that kind of leaderboard had it not moved to Classic Game. Too late for that kind of commitment when all resources are now into D4 development.

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I see streamers cheating as well. Someone called out a xp pool before it even showed up on screen.
Someone else uses a third party program to spend shards quicker/salvage as well.
I played with a bot yesterday with only 800 paragon points, but he did bounties at least

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Dont worry about botters. The only thing that will get you to the top of leaderboards is group play pushing your gems higher. If you check the leaderboards, most people at top are not paragon 6k but mebbe 2-3k. Wine less, play more

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Cheater detected - that’s not a solution - that’s ignoring the problem.

and another one.

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if you would concentrate more on playing the game instead of typing in the forums, you would probably already be paragon 2500 instead of almost 1500

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there’s a eu guy with almost 8900 paragons. He’s from a know botter clan tho, will get banned before season end… most likely.

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The guy at Rank 1 solo seasonal Necro currently has 9029 paragon, and has a played time of over 1500 hours this season.

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I think they are running much higher than 110s at that speed. Hell… At 3k or 4k paragon I’d guess a decent group could clear 130s in 3 to 5 minutes np. I wouldn’t be surprised if they could do close to 140s in that time. Thats a lot more xp than a 110.

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Blizzard’s problem is they cannot detect bots. With all the money in the world you can’t hire and expect college kids to be able to outsmart black hat script writers.

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Brother Chris 2.0, maybe?

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It’s not like there has been a shortage of threads over the years about botting.

  • Perhaps Blizzard does not have the resources to combat it.
  • Perhaps because it is in Classic Game status it is no longer a priority.
  • Perhaps they cannot detect them though I doubt it considering many have been banned even though not as many that should.

There are a lot of ‘Perhaps’.

The only perhaps I see as being of any use is that perhaps Blizzard needs to make an overdue statement as to why after so many years so few have been taken to task. Whether this is a privacy act issue, or a whatever the reason may be, at least people know.

If anyone looked at the Sth-East Asia region which is basically the southern hemisphere (not China), I am not even sure anyone there has ever been banned and if they have, very few and far between.

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