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No, you said that if barbs had the 200% lamentation it would be problematic because they would have cleared 150. Crusaders did, easily, and the universe didn’t end.

Hope this helps you understand what ‘equivalency’ means.

That is irrelevant to my point so I’m not sure why you replied to me. I stated (now for the third time) that this ‘well if lamentation was 200% barbs would have cleared 150’ is silly to portray as problematic because - crusaders cleared 150s. And even after the nerf they are still stronger rgks than frenzy barb.

Both of you completely (deliberately) misunderstood my point so here it is, plain as day. Now go back to your clear agendas.

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Wtf are you smoking? Blizzard doesn’t want solo players being able to clear GRift 150s. Any class, regardless of the class, needs to be nerfed to their measures if they exceed the expectation. It doesn’t matter if it’s Barbarian or Crusader or w/e. I did say the thing about Lamentation and it’s true. What’s your point? That Crusaders can clear 150? Both classes need nerfs, end of story. Of course the universe won’t end. You just need a wake up call that some builds are overperforming.

The expectation is currently GRift 141 @ 10k paragon or 132ish GRift at 3-5k paragon.

You can nerf all builds to parity and given enough time someone can still do a 150 solo naked. You can’t balance around a fixed endpoint with infinite progression. Beware the asymptote.

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No, max paragon is 20k just fyi.

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Doesn’t matter. Given enough time all classes will reach 150 solo non season. The odds of winning the lottery are nearly impossible but eventually someone wins. If enough players fish enough rifts someone will win the golden ticket. In the meantime they’re screwing over the average players with average paragon. Nothing shrinks a game quicker than catering to the elites at the expense of everyone else.

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This is only true if you are within a certain distance of GR 150. No necromancer has a chance at this at the moment because it would need 13 GRs more or 7.7X more functional DPS.

The way damage is calculated in this game is such that no naked player will ever clear GR 150.

At least in the balance blog, they mentioned trying to balance around 5k paragon for solo non-season clears. It is still a small percent but at least it is not the top 50 or anything like that.

You’re so freaking dense. Fishing for the perfect GRift doesn’t automatically mean you can clear it. You still have to have the damage for it. Creatures have a certain amount of health and you do a certain amount of damage. currently, GRift 150 has more mob health than character damage done to even clear with the absolute perfect GRift

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Picks up the pillow jokingly… :wink:

You shouldn’t claim they’re trying to balance with one breath and negate it with the next. Go ahead and make the wild leap to believing they’ll do something for Necros someday, maybe.
Hyperbole. It’s obvious to the most casual observer that it wasn’t meant to be taken seriously.
They mention a lot of things. How many of them come true?

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You need to burn that strawman. It’s not automatic it’s a combination of luck and skill. It can be done.

Unnerfing Lamentation was terribly. Ruined Barb. And the nerds to Hydra legs are also awful.

When they first announced classes were getting new sets, Blizzard stated that it would take time and occur over several patches. Given that they released 2-3 new sets per patch, some classes had to be last. Unfortunately, the two classes were DH and nercomancers who are currently the two weakest classes in era 12.

No it can’t. You’re entirely delusional and it’s not a freaking strawman argument. It’s simple math. Clearing a GRift 150 requires more damage than you can do.

Everyone knows you’re delusional because you think someone without any gear on can clear a GRift if they get lucky lol

Hyperbole. Look it up.
If a 146 is doable (it’s been done) a 150 is too.

The highest non season barb clear with under 10K paragon is 141. Go tell me another fairy tale about how barbs are “Ruined.” The highest clear isn’t by a WWRend either.

Wait until season 20 compared to season 19 barbs are going to look like their legs were cut off.

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What are you on about? One boring Barb playstyle was overtuned and now will replace all competition.

Season is not relevant. The build was even more insane in S19, but the problem is the same now, and Seasons end, buffs dont.

That’s not what happened. Go look at the leaderboards. Barbs were right where they were meant to be. The new set won’t change anything.

Wasn’t that by a player with over 10,000 paragon?

Anyway, for each GR level increase, mobs get a 17% HP increase. That means to go from a GR146 to a GR150, that’s a (1.17)^4 increase to mob health, which is 1.874 as much health. That means to clear the GR150, you need 87% more damage than to clear the GR146.

So, if you can clear a GR146 with 10K paragon, that’s about 60K Strength. An 87% increase means you’d need another 52,440 STR, which would need 10,488 paragon. Now, as the max paragon is 20K, and the requirement would be over 20K paragon, it’s not possible.

Yes it was and no paragon isn’t the only factor. It’s not a linear equation with one variable.

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No. WW was meant to compete with HptA, SS, and Chstge. It bleeds them all away.

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