Now they are being sued by California

fragile white man syndrome

Please keep racism off this board.

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While the forums are a bit wild with statements, I have not seen anything official stating work on WoW is actually shut down.

I know there was the planned protest/walkout on Wed, but do you have any solid links to a source for total shutdown? Something besides the Wed walkout?

While many might have supported the Wed protest/walkout, as far as I know normal work continues on the Diablo team and at VV (working on D2R).

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I think this is the one.

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EXACTLY, the whole issue basically boils down to “remanagement of previous management” (whilest chances are things were overmanaged to begin with)

These kinds of stuff really have to slow/hush down, so people can stop being over-obsessed about the little differences and have their time/head to focus on the real things

From a “leadership/management” standpoint there are 4 types of problems:

  1. High risk high reward
  2. High risk low reward
  3. Low risk high reward
  4. Low risk low reward

And we’re living in an era where obviously the #2 is the stuff that get into trends most often, and the reason isn’t that hard to understand really get paid by doing basically nothing, it’s an absolute “heaven” for corporations and companies, focus on marketing and sales of “fog” and still either way get the profit and/or coverage…

OH god. You did not link the Quartering. NO no.

Dude is a very toxic person who chases drama and is not a valid source for ANYTHING. Except click bait. He is so well known for “outrage” videos that he is even mentioned in a Cnet article on it back in 2019.

He is very anti women, pro gamergate, etc. His real name is Jeremy Hambly.

Here Meet the angry gaming YouTubers who turn outrage into views - CNET

That dude is not just part of the bad culture, he celebrates and encourages it.

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Are they hiring? Gaming and lifting culture. Dam, I’d love to get in.

Yeah… Not sure they are into roids though.

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It’s ok, I’ll introduce them.

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I’m sorry, but you’re wrong.

I’m quite familiar with Common Core, and I’m much more familiar with its failings. It is, at heart, centralized educational curriculum–not without its benefits and perks, of course, but also deeply flawed, particularly in its implementation into under-funded school systems and areas (urban and otherwise) of poverty. There are a lot of other reasons I’m not a fan of CC, but I understand it.

My earlier point was that many public education systems, and nearly all of higher education, has been decentralized, and even the supposedly centralized CC has been heavily modified. There are many points of dissonance in the American education system. Here’s an example: Where CC has been strictly implemented, it presents a straight-forward centralized curriculum of study for K-12. But what happens when students get to college and none of the curriculum is centralized? This is what I deal with every day, and what’s particularly distressing is 1) how CC fails to address diverse educational needs of different student populations, and 2) how CC fails to prepare students for higher education.

Earlier, you posted old tests and held them up as examples of how rigorous education used to be. Could you pass this, you asked? As if passing them meant you were educated versus well-prepared to take that test. As if there aren’t major problems with standardized tests in general. No educational system is perfect, sure, but leave that rubbish in the past–or burn it along with the 1776 “report.”

This is incorrect. The TLDR version: Critical Theory is theory that critiques society and culture and the social and personal structures that organize them publicly and personally.

A better explanation is that it operates through intersectionality, by examining where things such as race, class, gender, power, and so forth connect, and where the disconnect. It’s theory that asks us to examine why systems of knowledge and power work the way they work, if they have to work that way, and how they can be challenged.

Critical race theory is one part of this larger field of critical theory. Personally, I’ve always loved and used Purdue’s definition:

Critical Race Theory, or CRT, is a theoretical and interpretive mode that examines the appearance of race and racism across dominant cultural modes of expression.

When I teach it to students, I like to begin by saying that CRT’s purpose is to examine ideas of race and power in society, and to understand and challenge racism. If you use that in the future, please credit me :wink:

One can argue it is Marxist in the sense that it challenges existing dominant power structures, but one could also say neoliberal humanism did that when it upended the last of feudalism. You’re better off looking at Marxism as a specific type of economic and social theory that can be deployed within, but is not the core component of, critical theory.

This is a fundamental misunderstanding of CRT and Critical Theory as a whole, and deeply biased against any influence of socialism (which, again, is a like-minded, but not essential component of Critical Theory). The divisions you speak are not simple binaries, and they didn’t originate with Critical Theory; they’re not the result of socialism, and they’re not wholly the fault of capitalism, or democracy, or mercantilism and feudalism before that. These “divisions” are the result of complex overlapping forces–politics, philosophy, religion, law, etc.–that in turn create complex systems of classification, stratification, and hierarchy.

In other words, you’re trying to make an incredibly complex idea fit into a binary to suit your biases and agenda. We could, indeed, go on and on, because I study and teach Critical Theory professionally, and I publish studies that incorporate it, and have just been contracted to write a book that uses it as well. But let’s not; my purpose isn’t to shame you or be rude, but to point out in no uncertain terms that your understanding of the field is incomplete. I suggest doing more reading before continuing along this line.

They were not socialists. They co-opted the word for a variety of reasons, but they were, very simply, fascists. Their leader, whose name I can’t type here, abhored Marx and anything to do with socialism and Marxism. Your claim has in recent times been touted by Marjorie Taylor Greene, a right-wing Q-Anon psychopath, and is completely divorced from historical and factual truth.

In my opinion, the best argument against the Electoral College is that with it, many votes are effectively worthless once a state’s electors have been chosen. It diminishes the worth of an some votes and increases the net worth of others. A deeply flawed system.

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His article sounds like a rumour but doesn’t seem like a bunch of fake news or anything badly intended

Also “clickbait” is something that the whole internet does, not something just related to him

This looks like a bad move, no ofense, noone should have revealed their true identity, yes he says his first name in his videos but sharing his last name is a really low blow and dishonest move (especially for a CM/MVP)

Don’t think he has celebrated anything, he’s just usually against censorship

Not a personal favourite but don’t think I’ve heard a single fake news from him

Sorry i didn’t know that. :slightly_frowning_face:

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He’s a public figure. Google him.

While you’re at it, look up what he’s done. Harassment? Check. Misogynist? Check. Trump supporter? Double check.

Not a guy who’s “just against censorship.”

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He shared it himself in the published and linked article. He is a public figure. Sharing public information put out there by the person is not unscrupulous.

None of which are crimes

Well, except the first one :thinking: (but a one first has to prove it)

Again, I didn’t put the “presumption of innocence” and “don’t turn this into a trend against game developers” points for a reason, it’s important to not “mess it up” and again, it is important to treat it as a lawsuit of failure/s of an individual company (and even if there are others, have to be treated separately)

Sadly, it’s easy to see how easy it is for people to get “triggered” and lured onto a move for public/generic “witchhunting”…

Guess that’s true :thinking:

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What are you talking about? Hambly doesn’t work for Blizzard. He’s not part of this lawsuit. He’s a trash person, yeah, and he’s representative of many of the issues described in the lawsuit, yeah, but he doesn’t work for Blizzard.

MC’s point was that using him to support the lawsuit is a bad take because he embodies the behaviors that spurred the lawsuit in the first place. And if you do your homework, he’s got plenty to answer for.

Like . . . some of y’all are either losing your grip on reality or don’t know how to have a discussion/argument at all.

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Someone finally posted one of those videos… :popcorn: We’re going back, hold tight.

I think I’ll add this and vanish. There are much more view worthy youtubers and media out there, which are right or left leaning. Most of the “hot-take” people don’t believe what they spew out infront of cameras; my sarcasm swings both ways. Don’t weigh people with their view but their vision.
It doesn’t worth debating about someone you don’t value their views for; it doesn’t matter if the content they serve is right or wrong. You can easily ensure or fact check by yourself.

Late edit: Jeff Hamilton, a designer on Warcraft says no work have been done on World of Warcraft by Blizzard as this case going on. There’s no word about shut down for dramatization effect, however.

Yeah, when you give public interviews with your real name and such, and spend your time promoting yourself, your brand, your channel - you are a public figure.

Now you for example, prefer to be known by your Battletag. That is your choice. You are not a public figure and if someone were to find and reveal your real name that would be doxing. It would be unethical and also against the forum rules.

Someone else mentioned this yesterday, but it’s worth reiterating that the firm Blizzard hired to investigate their company is pretty sus:

https://kotaku.com/activision-blizzard-hires-union-busting-firm-as-workers-1847386654

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In the highly unlikely event the company gets swiftly eviscerated and fined into non-existence through resulting investigations, I’d estimate most projects will probably be delayed a quarter at worst, with a couple weeks at best. WoW will probably see the worst of it given the concentration of activity. D3 probably won’t see much change than what we’re used to. D2R could see a slight hiccup, but the outsourcing to VV would generally work in its favor here. OW and HS will probably be in the slight delay bubble. Other games that are basically in maintenance mode probably shouldn’t see any outages.

This, of course, based on current knowledge. If it turns out we get more bombshells dropped and more walk-outs, things could definitely get worse.

Personally, I’m hoping for a severe eye-opening across the games industry, and not just with stuff related to this case. If this somehow segues into the much needed prohibition/regulation of lootbox/gacha mechanics on top of predatory DLC, I’d be ecstatic. To say these aren’t related would also be inaccurate, as it does correspond to properly paying workers and discouraging things like crunch environment.

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Here’s my wish list:

  • Major reconfigurations of game industry from top down (less pay for CEOs and board, more for developers, Q&A, Community, etc)
  • Full investigation into happenings at Acti-Blizz and other game companies
  • Ditch the exploitative live-service/microtransaction models
  • U N I O N I Z E
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