Its completely doable on s19 if the kill streak bonus isnt balanced. Even on a zdps toon. It will take enormous amounts of fishing but completely doable.
Bazooka will be able to do it 100%. As long as they build for enough defense, it’ll happen.
1 Like
That I believe, would be ‘totally unintended’ 
1 Like
If they haven’t changed the the power of the S19 theme at all. There may just be a few classes/builds to hit 150 this season.
You’re talking about NS only OP.
Perhaps your thread should be in the NS forum.
Season is always close behind NS after 5 to 6 weeks anyway in Leaderboard.
Multishot is not used in groups mostly because of the lag that area damage + rockets produce…
Fun enough is that in most cases multishot does better against single targets (unless you use the physical rune in massive density).
In the barb subject… i think they should leave lamentation at 100% (mostly because if they make WW the strongest barb build is there almost no reason to play HOTA or SLAM, because WW is the strongest speedfarm build too), but instead increase hota and slam build damage to be able to do decent DPS in groups, i really want slam build being an efficient thrash killer.
In the other hand, the crusader buff… well… we were talking about it in the crusader forums, and we think that it will not survive, HF is dealing massive damage thanks to the 20k buff, unlike FOH, HF has a complete group of legendaries that makes the numbers go into the broken area…
I would love to see some buffs to some forgotten specs to change a bit the group meta spots, but i think the crusader will set will be nerfed.
1 Like
It’s fairly odd that they didn’t even consider this during the PTR.
2 Likes
Posts like this has been up for years, and blizzard does little to nothing about it lol. Like it’s so obvious what builds are weak and what builds are strong. It should not be that hard to just increase and decrease a few multipliers.
2 Likes
Because whenever they do, even buffing one class to 140, while 5 classes are 140+, people call for nerfs. I don’t understand it.
Everyone wants a new way to do speed runs and as soon as we get it. They want to nerf that build because 140 at 10k paragon is more op than a wizard doing gr 148 or necro doing 147?
Doesn’t make any sense to me.
1 Like
When we did N6M4 multishot speeds, we could only have 2 DHs in group using N6M4 – a 3rd MS player would pull the server to its knees. That is a total of 8 sources of MS damage, rockets and all, and it would lag if we found a huge pocket of density. If you are careful with your group comp and monitor the AD of other teammates, 1 MS dps will work fine on super pulls.
Wiz 148:
http://bbs.d.163.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=173790992&extra=page%3D2
Necro 147:
Fixed it for you 
I wish I could give you more than one like 
, unfortunately due to the limit of likes given I must wait 15 minutes to even give you one 
1 Like
Is this what we have to expect? Wiz and necro doing 148 while everyone else is left at 140-142? IF THAT.
Within this post, I’ve already seen multiple people post about how their class could potentially work in a group. What skills are better than others.
We already know what our class needs to perform in speed metas, rgk, or trash clearer. We just need a dev to be willing to make the change.
These restrictions are really bothersome. I myself have to wait 2 hours for another like.
True with TL3 you should be able to give 200 or 250 likes a day, not 25-50 or whatever the limit is…
Yep, Devs have no problem nerfing barbs over and over again to the ground most of the times while others can BOT, use THUD with no worries and clear over 146 GRs with no problems with their unlimitted crafting mats, used to make perfect primals for them…
I know you don’t need primals to clear 145+ GRs, but still…
If a barb with over 10500 paragon and perfect items barely clears a 140 GR he’s OP, but when Necros and Wizards clear 146+ GRs it’s perfectly fine…
2 Likes
Happy to see threads like this. Trust me, I wish it didn’t need to be so, but when it does, I am glad to see people scream for attention. Cause this is simply not alright.
Too much have been written and proposed about the Barbarian, too many times have we been nerfed again and again or forgotten. Always slacking down at the bottom while other classes dominate. Simply not okay.
3 Likes
Welcome to the world of D3 RoS where only 2 classes are allowed to have the best DPS builds to push for highiest GRs clears in game…
If Barbs come even at 4 or God forbid beat them by 2 or 4 GRs in clears they are OP and breaking the balance. 
Check this out for a good laugh:
Also don’t forget to support Free’s thread:
I can’t even remember last time that Barbarian was a top dog… It’s so strange to see a class that should also be able to use 2x2hander, yelling so his teammates can do all the damage… So damn odd lol
2 Likes
It was before Jay Wilson moved on People forget he mained a barb and they were godly. Then he was gone and it’s been one nerf after another. Now some people will say it was worth it to get rid of Jay but I think balancing the classes would have been a better plan.
This is just more good reasons why Vyr/Chants and WW/Rend should not have been nerfed at all. WW/Rend probably should have had the Lamentation upped to 300-400%. I’m tired of the devs just listening to nerf trolls and breaking this game because of what bots do. I also want Karlei’s Point buffed more. Bring it up to 5-600% like was suggested ages ago. Why can’t Condemn also be buffed?
Why is the average player sh*t on in this game?
Blizzard, you’re going to have to prove themselves if you want anymore of my money. I’m tired of being told ‘we hear you’, ‘don’t you guys have phones’, ‘the forges are burning hot’. Blah blah blah.
2 Likes
Thankfully, 2.6.7 nerfs each of these tremendously. Unfortunately, Rats are going to be a thing yet again due to the Barb nerf, where it was looking like Rend was more than viable…THEY NEED TO ADDRESS THIS!
We need to see some love for both Barbs and Monks, but I also want to see RGK options for WD and DH surface as well. WD and DH are better in terms of functional play than Barb and Monk, but they also suffer from a lack in the “META” albeit they are each part of compositions that are only 3-4 levels behind the rat run pace…it can still be better.
They should just do something that shifts the meta. I am not sure what exactly, but it would be nice to see a direct and purposeful tuning to upheave the meta after each season!
Everything you mentioned is spot on, well done!!!
1 Like
Those Chinese dudes in that thread are talking about getting 150 done, so they can be done with the end game LOL.