I`m not sarcastic im 100% serious, i think this seems the only way to actually wake up u and the Hacks Team, take a damn second at the EU non seasonal leaderboards, check particularly the solo crusader top 5 spots and tell me that you are not a negligent group of people… shame on you … honestly… this game have no integrity anymore…
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I said it before and I’ll say it again: it isn’t just botting; what about “cookies”? Shouldn’t those benefitting from that also be targeted?
I won’t explain in detail but anyone who actually plays this game knows what I mean.
I play the game and have no clue what you mean.
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Botting still exists in 2019?
“Trigger word” -> “group invite” -> “free caches”. Rinse and repeat.
The word may differ by region.
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That`s a very marginal issue, i would pay to have only this, the cancer is paragon botting 24h24.
Lol liking your own posts under a sock poppet account, kinda tragic don’t you think?
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Marginal? You think botting is only used to farm paragon? And you think they get the loot they need from paragon farming? Have you?
No. So they implement entire networks of bots running bounties for them on the side too and then achieve unlimited mats.
This is part of their holistic approach to seeking in game advantages and is most cettainly NOT a marginal issue.
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Don’t really like the idea of a banwave season.
I get that they might not ruin your games. But cheating in general should not be allowed.
And it seems like no one really cares if people are botting or not… Kinda sad.
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Ah, okay, but doesn’t this mean that there’s a bot involved on a separate account doing the farming of the bounties in order for there to be caches to be distributed to the invited players?
I presume you’re proposing that not only does the account that’s doing the botting for bounties get banned, but also the accounts that repeatedly benefit from the caches provided by the botting account. That sounds like a good idea, but it’s way, way harder to detect / prove, I guess.
You’re exactly right. But, since when was ‘difficult to prove’ synonymous with ‘not worth it’? I’m not saying that this is your position but the amount of action against botting in this game is so low as to suggest that it is a mutually beneficial relationship between the many, many bot accounts and Blizzard.
Not to talk about other games, but I think we could all think of a few (including at least one popular Blizzard title) where the reporting function against botting (including aim botting or other hacks) works a lot better; where the punishment is much harsher; and in short where the deterrent for hacking is credible and well-known.
Perhaps D3 is already in ‘maintenance’ sort of mode but perhaps with D4 Blizzard will be able to implement a far more structured and rigorous anti-automated play setup.
Either way I hope it is clear that I’m part of the ‘anti botting’ crew, in all its forms, including those that knowingly benefit from it.
This old chestnut again…The ban wave will happen, just be patient. Honestly though, the more i read whinging posts about it like from the TC, the less i care about bot corruption.
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You read the title and still decided to comment, even though you knew what it was about.
Besides, botting should not be allowed for an entire season.
Yes IS marginal, botting para, keys is NOT, is a sistematical and guaranteed huge advantage , getting only bounties tbh isnt. Anyway they should BAN THEM ALL, everyone that load that fking sh.t on his account MUST BE FKING BANNED ON SPOT, period, rest is fried air.
Latimer, Nostromo and Saturn are the same guy, he spammed the same crap in the old forums for months. One account got banned, he hopped onto the next account and picked up where he left off.
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This guy have mental issues…
You’re right, that’s most definitely not my position but it’s got to be easier to detect and ban the primary accounts that are botting than the accounts that are benefitting from those accounts.
Over on the EU forums I tried, over a period of more than a year, to ask for things to be done about accounts that were clearly botting. I provided example evidence of seasonal accounts, how to view their played time within the season, and that they were playing for 22+ hours a day, for weeks on end, and had done similar things for entire seasons, for multiple seasons in a row.
At some point I just decided that hitting my head against a brick wall wasn’t getting me anywhere and I just gave up.
This is nothing to joke around with nor mention on this forum.
A couple points on that - they don’t allow us to call out other players on the forums nor do they take cheating/botting reports that way. You know that though.
The other is that for legal reasons, they have to PROVE that someone was botting/cheating. If they can’t prove it well enough to withstand a court challenge they prefer not to ban people. Banning takes away the game license someone paid for. Sure, they EULA says they can ban for ANY reason, but most companies don’t do that sort of thing.
With Blizz, just because it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and waddles like a duck, does not mean they put it in the duck pen. They wait for the DNA test to come back saying 100% duck.
Oh, and in addition to legal and ethical considerations, false positives in ban waves increase the number of CS appeal contacts. That takes real human time to sort out and incurs additional costs. They like to be as sure as possible the ban was justified before doing it!
Personally, really hoping we get our long overdue bans soon.
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Right. I think what irks people like meteor, myself, and others that try to play the game regularly and (in doing so) regularly encounter botters, is that they seem to be able to play for entire seasons with impunity.
On the proof side, I bet this could be difficult - depending how the bot is programmed. Having said that: has a case ever been brought against Blizzard for wrongful banning of a 60 dollar account?
Finally: could you reach out to your contacts and perhaps let us know what the ‘gold standard’ for a botting report would be? Should it be a lot more than ‘user name, time range’ and be an ‘article’ describing ongoing behavior, arguments in favor of interpreting the behavior as botting, etc?
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