Never thought I’d ask for a nerf, but wow do they suck. I’d be fine with doing them just for augments, but being the XP META is terrible. This is a game mode for the brain dead, you blast through 0-100 which is a joke, then condi kills everything else for you. Pls Nerf🙏
That is all.
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my sources told me that filthie is a huge fan of the exp 4 man meta and that’s why we dont get any changes or discussion from them about how terribad the season theme is. It’s could literally possibly be true, but i dunno it’s just what someone trustworthy told me.
People are still playing this season???
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Only the ones without phones 
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Lol not even their crappy double bounty “event” can’t save D3 at this stage.
They already killed their season within the first few weeks when they said EN will be in non-season as well, which took away every valid reason to play season this time.
Blizzard is clearly encased in a bubble of pure stupid, because they can never do anything right, and clearly lack any semblance of common sense & thinking ahead.
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Please save me from doing endless ENs for the eternity of D3!!! The concept behind ENs is great free augments, get some loot etc…but having it be the XP meta is not cool. I’ve done thousands of these runs, they were cool at first but they don’t have the endless repeatable play like greater rifts do. Please Blizzard listen to this man 
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Well now you know how the people feel who think those GR’s are just as boring.
Neither should be the XP preferable meta though but equally valid options so players can choose what to play beyond needed mats as should be bounties even if that might give scaling issues and preferably campaign as well, but that ship sailed after ROS was released.
Any incentive of meta by devs is bad in its own way and tend to make game only more enjoyable for those who love that specific meta at the cost of all others.
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I just have to laugh about seasons. The thing is we have done what 26 seasons. Which one has been better then any other? Does any body ever check peoples profile?
Most of the people that do play seasons 80% to 90%. They are new, or maybe been here maybe for a yr. The other 10% to 20% have been here more then that.
So what you are saying is because they are moving nightmare over to non season it kill the season. This isn’t the 1st time they move some thing over.
So what do really get at the end of every season? OH wait I’m a season player and to bad to sad non season people. Look at what I got playing seasons. So really at the end you really have nothing more then non season people do you!!!
How many times have I heard please move stuff over and they didn’t. But this time the decided to move something over and it is killing the game. WOW
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Being the exp meta is a fact. You being forced to run them is not. Simply stop running them and your problem is solved.
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Oh wow, such insight. Why didn’t I think of that. I will just grind away on solo monk, there are no GR XP groups, because why would there be. I’ll be far behind everyone else in paragon, and unable to DPS in push groups. Sounds great, damn. Just don’t play it… Problem Solved! /thread
This is a garbage game mode, where you are literally standing in a little box for 2 minutes letting condi kill stuff, until you close it and do it again. Please tell me, what is exciting, interesting, or fun about this, other than it’s the best way to get XP currently?
Also, you don’t even have a seasonal character?
If the EN keys were as accessible as greater rifts keys this would be a great topic. However…
I get more primals than EN keys. Ppl who take advantage of others to use keys should be a different conversation.
But Echoing Nightmare is the only way solo players can catch up to group Meta players on paragon. In my opinion, if anything, the XP should be buffed.
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I agree they should buff it.
For Solo Play - 35% Buff
2 players - 25%
3 players - 10%
4 players - 0%
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If xp is being abused in 4 player than taking away the extra xp might help. Instead increase the loot?
Single xp could be boosted instead.
I think this game mode needs to evolve overall.
Echoing nightmare is a little too stationary for my liking in general. It needs different floors to feel like travel. Something about standing in the same room irks me.
I dislike the arena in Last Epoch for this reason, but at least the map changes after so many waves.
If I were to reinvent the Echoing Nightmare. I’d have it be a long corridor style map, with a wall of fire behind you that insta-kills you if you touch it. The fire engulfs the floor behind you and creeps forward forcing you to run into enemies. Over time the monster density just piles up. Maybe they throw some traps in the middle of the floor to stifle players along the way (objects that can pull you, knock you back, a line of wormholes with a gap to walk through, crisscrossed arcane beams, fire pits that insta kill you, those slicers in Act 1, etc). You must reach a certain amount of kills for the portal to appear, which lets you proceed to the next floor and do it all over again.
If you find yourself at the end of the map without killing enough trash you die a fiery death, maybe you get obliterated by 300 zombies before the fire reaches your face, or maybe you’re lucky enough to kill another 10 zombies to get to the next floor Indiana Jones style. The objective is travel.
Travel too far ahead and Rift Guardians bosses appear, teleport over your head, and stomp you good. Maybe you can rush forward and deal with them on weaker floors, but you’re going to get mauled in 150 difficulty.
Oh and it’d be nice if didn’t have to start at Level 1 every time. If I get a EN token from GR150, let the EN start from 75.
Yep my little box is a happy place. I’m content with the game the way it is and adapt to any future changes. Asking for a nerf so that the new game mode becomes irrelevant is just silly. As you can see most people want the opposite of you. This game gives extra exp for group play. You want to keep up with group you need to play group. Whatever the reason is for you not playing groups is your fault.
That sounds like a lot more fun
EN is too ez and gives too much exp. Its fast quick and ez. It doesnt require meta builds or alot of teamwork. U could pretty much leech the team and still beat GRs exp wise.
Killing everything with cond is pretty dumb tbh. Would like them to change it so its not too ez to gain max exp. Maybe add a boss at the end so u would need dps or a rgk.
EN being meta feels bad since its a dumbed down GR
Oooh really? Where’d you get that idea? I’ve yet to meet someone who outright said they like ENs. Until you, who is content to sit in a box.
There are exactly 2 people in this whole thread who have said want it to stay, both of which seem like solo players.

Not irrelevant, useful for getting augments.
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